Idiots like these California academics, who are trying to start yet another boycott of Israeli academics, insist that it’s the right thing to do, because Israel is being unreasonable. Hamas, they say, is willing to negotiate. Really.
Asked if the group would accept the endorsement of Hamas supporters, Lloyd said, “We have no a priori policy with regard to the membership or affiliation of supporters of the boycott so long as they are in accord with the main aims stated in the press release.”
He argued that, “on several occasions Hamas has sought direct negotiations with Israel, a pursuit that constitutes de facto recognition of Israel, and has openly discussed abandoning its call for the destruction of the state of Israel conditional on reciprocal guarantees from Israel.”
Really? Because in the AP today, in a story that clearly contradicts itself about halfway through we have this quote from a Hamas legislator:
“We have our hands open to any country … to open a dialogue without conditions,” he said – clarifying that does not include Israel.
That’s in a story titled “Hamas officials signal willingness to negotiate.” The negotiation, of course, is for another “hudna,” not for an actually peace.
How much plainer does Hamas have to be in order for those idiots to understand that Hamas does not, will not, and shall not ever accept the existence of the Jewish State? Even the AP can’t hide it any longer, although the AP has learned how to pass along Hamas’ lies—and to try to place the blame for lack of progress on Israel.
The notion of engaging Hamas is anathema to Israel.
“A dialogue with Hamas as a terror organization would be a strategic mistake, because Israel advocates dialogue with the moderates and displaying toughness against the extremists,” Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni told the Maariv daily this week.
Israel’s position is based on the fact that Hamas refuses to recognize its right to exist. However, the three Hamas leaders interviewed said they would accept statehood in just the West Bank and Gaza and would give up their “resistance” against Israel if that were achieved.
“We accept a state in the ’67 borders,” said Hamad. “We are not talking about the destruction of Israel.”
Our struggle against the Jews is very great and very serious. It needs all sincere efforts. It is a step that inevitably should be followed by other steps. The Movement is but one squadron that should be supported by more and more squadrons from this vast Arab and Islamic world, until the enemy is vanquished and Allah’s victory is realised.
Yes, they are. Especially when they’re not talking to the Western media and Eurofools and diplomats who insist that Hamas only wants to rule a Palestinian state—utterly igoring their charter, which calls for an Islamic caliphate on all of “Palestine.”
I doubt this boycott will get off the ground, and of course, the academics will be able to trumpet the huge risk to their careers they are taking by standing against Israel (yawn). In the meantime, I suspect that an academic boycott is probably illegal, as joining the Arab boycott is illegal in this country. Watch for this boycott to be mostly ignored.
In the U.S., anti-Israel opinion is clearly driven by people who consider themselves intellectuals or who identify with intellectuals. If you imagine an American in which there is no PBS, no NPR, no NYT, and no university graduate programs outside the hard sciences, that would be an American in which support for Israel would be far stronger than it is today.
It’s often been noted that Christian Evangelicals are usually strong supporters of Israel, and this is usually put down to theological beliefs. But I think a stronger factor is that most Evangelicals are members of social groups that are pretty much outside the force field of opinion which is centered on the academy.
Well as a native Californian allow me to start the movement to kick these academics out of California.
They are completely unreasonable and have refused to engage in dialogue about their actions. Most importantly they don’t play as I want them to so we need to throw their sorry asses into the sea.
Alternatively they can go live in the middle of Death Valley. The desert would do them good this time of year.
Let’s see if we can put this into syllogistic form. I’m sure a bunch of academics would appreciate that.
Hamas wants to destroy Israel and carry out a genocide of the Jews.
Lloyd and his pals support Hamas.
Therefore Lloyd and his pals support genocide of the Jews. This is antisemitism. QED
The only possible problem is, do they support Hamas. Well, they want to harm Israel (through a boycott of Israeli academics, which they presumably think would harm Israel or they would not propose it as a retaliation for Israel’s alledged misdeeds) in retaliation for Israel’s harm to Hamas. I’d say that counts as supporting Hamas.
You can almost sense the panic which must have descended on this idiot when asked if, given America’s role in Iraq, logic wouldn’t dictate that he would have to boycott himself. Hmmm, now there’s a paradox for you Dr. Lloyd. Perhaps you could solve it if you were a professor of Mathematics. Lloyd replies, “Self-boycott is a difficult concept to realize. But speaking for myself, I would have supported and honored such a boycott had it been proposed by my colleagues overseas.” Just too funny.
The academics in America are an insidious bunch like the leeches in a pit. Especially the ones in “public” institutions. Was in a 4-yr public university some five years ago where I heard plenty of Anti-Semitic propaganda on a regular basis. My major was Agri-business management, one would think how ugly can it get–got bashed and booed whenever I took stand for Israel. Did’nt stop me from voicing my opinion openly and unapologetically. Needless to say I was passed over for all good paying internships, job leads etc. Never got hired for a job in my field even though I live in the smack middle of “the bread basket of the world”. As for the boycott, we ought to boycott the academics who speak with poison tongue against Israel and right on Jack!
Good on you Omega. Thanks.
During the 2006 Lebanon War I defended Israel’s actions in the class I was taking, Arabic.