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		By: Steve		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Meryl,

One thing implicit (I think) in your comment is that to someone like Peter Beinart, his religion (or as we discussed, his faith in the absence of evidence) is liberalism. What he doesn&#039;t realize is how many people would be happy to remind him that no matter how far away he strays, to them, he&#039;ll always be a Jew.

Empress,

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meryl,</p>
<p>One thing implicit (I think) in your comment is that to someone like Peter Beinart, his religion (or as we discussed, his faith in the absence of evidence) is liberalism. What he doesn&#8217;t realize is how many people would be happy to remind him that no matter how far away he strays, to them, he&#8217;ll always be a Jew.</p>
<p>Empress,</p>
<p>Excellent point.</p>
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		By: soccer dad		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Meryl,

One thing implicit (I think) in your comment is that to someone like Peter Beinart, his religion (or as we discussed, his faith in the absence of evidence) is liberalism. What he doesn&#039;t realize is how many people would be happy to remind him that no matter how far away he strays, to them, he&#039;ll always be a Jew.

Empress,

Excellent point.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meryl,</p>
<p>One thing implicit (I think) in your comment is that to someone like Peter Beinart, his religion (or as we discussed, his faith in the absence of evidence) is liberalism. What he doesn&#8217;t realize is how many people would be happy to remind him that no matter how far away he strays, to them, he&#8217;ll always be a Jew.</p>
<p>Empress,</p>
<p>Excellent point.</p>
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		By: Empress Trudy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 20:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The key point is what this or that government is. It&#039;s that EVERY Israeli government from the most left to the most right has been met with the same response by her critics. Every single government from Ben-Gurion to Meir to Begin to Barak to Bibi and all the governments in between.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The key point is what this or that government is. It&#8217;s that EVERY Israeli government from the most left to the most right has been met with the same response by her critics. Every single government from Ben-Gurion to Meir to Begin to Barak to Bibi and all the governments in between.</p>
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		By: Gerry		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 18:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What people like Beinart refuse to acknowledge is that nothing will satisfy the Palestinians except the total removal of Israel from the map.  Were Israel to pull back to the 1949 borders, it still would be, in the words of Abbas, &quot;not enough&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What people like Beinart refuse to acknowledge is that nothing will satisfy the Palestinians except the total removal of Israel from the map.  Were Israel to pull back to the 1949 borders, it still would be, in the words of Abbas, &#8220;not enough&#8221;.</p>
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		By: anon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 15:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Meryl, Mr. Beinart is a &quot;court Jew&quot;.  And like those before him for a couple of thousand years he honestly believes that if he excoriates his fellow Jews, those that he wishes to join will find him acceptable. 

They will not. 

Simply put, the enemies of Israel are the enemies of the Jews. They will use the comments of a Beinart, or a Chomsky, or a Judt, 
a Finkelstein, a Frye, or the J streeters, et.al. to forward their goals.  But, to those Jew haters, they will never be accepted. They are still &quot;Jews&quot;.  

One would think as well educated are they are supposed to be, they would have learned THAT lesson of history.

We true Christian Zionists, on the other hand, will always support the Land of Israel.  And we will always support the Jewish people. Because it is both morally right and our duty unto the Lord to do so.

Am Yisroel Chai!  Let Israel - and the Jewish People - Live!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meryl, Mr. Beinart is a &#8220;court Jew&#8221;.  And like those before him for a couple of thousand years he honestly believes that if he excoriates his fellow Jews, those that he wishes to join will find him acceptable. </p>
<p>They will not. </p>
<p>Simply put, the enemies of Israel are the enemies of the Jews. They will use the comments of a Beinart, or a Chomsky, or a Judt,<br />
a Finkelstein, a Frye, or the J streeters, et.al. to forward their goals.  But, to those Jew haters, they will never be accepted. They are still &#8220;Jews&#8221;.  </p>
<p>One would think as well educated are they are supposed to be, they would have learned THAT lesson of history.</p>
<p>We true Christian Zionists, on the other hand, will always support the Land of Israel.  And we will always support the Jewish people. Because it is both morally right and our duty unto the Lord to do so.</p>
<p>Am Yisroel Chai!  Let Israel &#8211; and the Jewish People &#8211; Live!</p>
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		By: Meryl Yourish		</title>
		<link>https://www.yourish.com/2010/05/25/10930/comment-page-1#comment-40207</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 13:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My two cents: Here&#039;s a quote of Beinart&#039;s that&#039;s worth reading.

&lt;blockquote&gt;That&#039;s one of my greatest fears. It troubles me deeply to think that I&#039;m living at a time in which the world&#039;s two largest Jewish communities are growing inexorably apart and that their political cultures have less and less in common. I want my American children to stand in awe of Israel, and what it has accomplished. But I don&#039;t want them to have to sacrifice the liberal democratic values that are one of American Jewry&#039;s greatest traditions. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not to worry, Peter. Like all American secular Jews, your children will likely marry out of the faith, you will have only one Jewish grandchild, and in two generations, there will be no more Jews in your family to either criticize or stand in awe of Israel---unless they become Christian Zionists. And frankly, I&#039;m starting to think that all second-generation former Jews would be better off converting to Christianity and finding a good, pro-Israel church to join. Because it sure does seem like only the American Orthodox Jews are going to continue to stand in awe of Israel.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My two cents: Here&#8217;s a quote of Beinart&#8217;s that&#8217;s worth reading.</p>
<blockquote><p>That&#8217;s one of my greatest fears. It troubles me deeply to think that I&#8217;m living at a time in which the world&#8217;s two largest Jewish communities are growing inexorably apart and that their political cultures have less and less in common. I want my American children to stand in awe of Israel, and what it has accomplished. But I don&#8217;t want them to have to sacrifice the liberal democratic values that are one of American Jewry&#8217;s greatest traditions. </p></blockquote>
<p>Not to worry, Peter. Like all American secular Jews, your children will likely marry out of the faith, you will have only one Jewish grandchild, and in two generations, there will be no more Jews in your family to either criticize or stand in awe of Israel&#8212;unless they become Christian Zionists. And frankly, I&#8217;m starting to think that all second-generation former Jews would be better off converting to Christianity and finding a good, pro-Israel church to join. Because it sure does seem like only the American Orthodox Jews are going to continue to stand in awe of Israel.</p>
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