Comments on: Piling on Walt & Mearsheimer https://www.yourish.com/2007/09/12/3670 Cutting straight to the point Tue, 18 Sep 2007 23:19:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Eris https://www.yourish.com/2007/09/12/3670/comment-page-1#comment-28457 Tue, 18 Sep 2007 23:19:00 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2007/09/12/3670#comment-28457 Walt and Mearsheimer’s essay and book are probably the most thoroughly discredited works in history (see this link).

This is quite an accomplishment. Good work, Professors! (Were Gilligan and Mary Ann your research assistants?)

Oh, and please, no ad hominem attacks (see this link) against the authors of these critiques. if you’re going to open your piehole, find some meat and make an argument like a man, not a drunken cossack, demented leftist, sufferer of this problem, or chimpanzee, if you disagree with the aforementioned linked assessments.

]]> By: Lightnin' Roy https://www.yourish.com/2007/09/12/3670/comment-page-1#comment-28440 Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:12:45 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2007/09/12/3670#comment-28440 Good post. But I really hate that expression “the socialism of fools” because it wrongly implies that not all socialists are fools.

]]> By: Eris https://www.yourish.com/2007/09/12/3670/comment-page-1#comment-28434 Mon, 17 Sep 2007 17:25:39 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2007/09/12/3670#comment-28434 For a concise overview of the problems with the Walt-Mearsheimer essay and book, see the 5 page pdf at this link.

This pdf is being widely disseminated in academia, industry and government.

]]> By: Eris https://www.yourish.com/2007/09/12/3670/comment-page-1#comment-28404 Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:09:01 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2007/09/12/3670#comment-28404 Corrected link:

http://www.boston.com/news/education/higher/articles/2005/12/13/saudi_donates_20m_to_harvard/

no /%20 on the end.

]]> By: Eris https://www.yourish.com/2007/09/12/3670/comment-page-1#comment-28403 Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:23:11 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2007/09/12/3670#comment-28403 m not willing to state anti Semitism isn’t a factor.And I do worry about the Democrats tendency to count potential Arabic voters and withdraw support.</i> $20 million is also a lot of dough. Saudi donates $20 million to Harvard , Boston Globe, Dec. 13, 2005. http://www.boston.com/news/education/higher/articles/2005/12/13/saudi_donates_20m_to_harvard/%20 Funny how the Walt-Mearshiemer paper was submitted on 03/13/2006 (http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/Research/wpaper.nsf/rwp/RWP06-011 ).]]> Still,I’m not willing to state anti Semitism isn’t a factor.And I do worry about the Democrats tendency to count potential Arabic voters and withdraw support.

$20 million is also a lot of dough.

Saudi donates $20 million to Harvard , Boston Globe, Dec. 13, 2005. http://www.boston.com/news/education/higher/articles/2005/12/13/saudi_donates_20m_to_harvard/%20

Funny how the Walt-Mearshiemer paper was submitted on 03/13/2006 (http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/Research/wpaper.nsf/rwp/RWP06-011 ).

]]> By: Hugh https://www.yourish.com/2007/09/12/3670/comment-page-1#comment-28385 Fri, 14 Sep 2007 00:44:26 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2007/09/12/3670#comment-28385 Thanks AG. I should have known I was getting careless. ;-)

]]> By: AG in Houston https://www.yourish.com/2007/09/12/3670/comment-page-1#comment-28384 Fri, 14 Sep 2007 00:06:35 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2007/09/12/3670#comment-28384 Hugh

That would be Charles Johnson.

]]> By: Hugh https://www.yourish.com/2007/09/12/3670/comment-page-1#comment-28383 Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:57:46 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2007/09/12/3670#comment-28383 Meryl, isn’t Charles Taylor the publisher of Little Green Footballs?

]]> By: Andrew https://www.yourish.com/2007/09/12/3670/comment-page-1#comment-28377 Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:54:58 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2007/09/12/3670#comment-28377 The thing that folks like Walt and Mearsheimer don’t get is that a lot of American support for Israel is based on the underlying fact that Americans like Israel. Even if there were no strategic advantages to an American alliance with Israel, the general public would still largely be pro-Israel.

Why? Because we like countries where the populace votes and throws out unpopular governments. We like countries where women can wear what they want and run the government. We like countries that, well, like us. There’s simply a half-century of emotional and intellectual ties between Israel and the US that aren’t going to be cut by the revelation that, GASP, there’s an Israel lobby in the country.

Actually, I should correct myself. Walt and Mearsheimer probably know that Americans like Israel on a deeper level. They just think that belief is the result of weak minds being manipulated by a Jew-controlled media.

Even if that wasn’t anti-Semitic, it would still be an awful argument to make. Look, I can accept that reasonable people disagree with me on Israel. Hey, I’m a wacked-out liberal Democrat, so a number of folks I agree with on other issues are opposed to me here. (Though I’ll say that the extent of leftist antagonism toward Israel is somewhat over-stated) But Walt and Mearsheimer seem to think that the very act of having a pro-Israel mindset is evidence of a weak, manipulated mind. And I find that insulting and dangerous, both as someone who’s pro-Israel and as someone who just likes legitimate argumentation.

]]> By: corwin https://www.yourish.com/2007/09/12/3670/comment-page-1#comment-28371 Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:44:11 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2007/09/12/3670#comment-28371 I expect American Jews to be more emotionally involved with Israel than I(a Gentile and agnostic).But why am I stupid to believe it’s in my(and America’s) self interest to have a Liberal democracy in the Middle East as our ally.
I think some of the Left routinely feel any ally of the US must be evil,QED,Israel is evil.
Still,I’m not willing to state anti Semitism isn’t a factor.And I do worry about the Democrats tendency to count potential Arabic voters and withdraw support.

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