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		By: Jim Wilkinson		</title>
		<link>https://www.yourish.com/2007/05/11/3124/comment-page-1#comment-26271</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Wilkinson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 20:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[yes, remove the HD and store it in a safe place (away from damp, magnetic fields and cats :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, remove the HD and store it in a safe place (away from damp, magnetic fields and cats :-)</p>
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		By: Meryl Yourish		</title>
		<link>https://www.yourish.com/2007/05/11/3124/comment-page-1#comment-26260</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Meryl Yourish]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 03:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jim, by &quot;remove it&quot; you mean remove the HD and keep it, right?

I&#039;m going to go with the program recommended by the guy at the link with the HD. I read his pages and liked a lot of what he said.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, by &#8220;remove it&#8221; you mean remove the HD and keep it, right?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to go with the program recommended by the guy at the link with the HD. I read his pages and liked a lot of what he said.</p>
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		By: Jim Wilkinson		</title>
		<link>https://www.yourish.com/2007/05/11/3124/comment-page-1#comment-26256</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Wilkinson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 02:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Meryl

If I may respond to your last comment... 

If HP swaps out the MB with a new one, (it will more than likely be the exact same model) or if they swap out the video controller (many laptops have modular video controllers) with the same model you&#039;ll be fine.  

When you install XP, it makes a list of your major components to prevent illegal copying.  XP does allow you to swap out one or two at a time - however a major hardware change can cause the OS to demand a new activation.  

The scenario that Robert describes is due to massive driver failure caused by a hardware change (ie different model motherboard)

Making a completely restorable backup of XP can be tricky -  I recommend an imaging program like Norton Ghost.  On the other hand backing up your data and then re-applying the factory image is often a good idea as well (cleans out the old crap) - Your safest approach is to backup the data on your hard drive, and then remove it before sending the LT in for service.  This way you&#039;re completely covered.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meryl</p>
<p>If I may respond to your last comment&#8230; </p>
<p>If HP swaps out the MB with a new one, (it will more than likely be the exact same model) or if they swap out the video controller (many laptops have modular video controllers) with the same model you&#8217;ll be fine.  </p>
<p>When you install XP, it makes a list of your major components to prevent illegal copying.  XP does allow you to swap out one or two at a time &#8211; however a major hardware change can cause the OS to demand a new activation.  </p>
<p>The scenario that Robert describes is due to massive driver failure caused by a hardware change (ie different model motherboard)</p>
<p>Making a completely restorable backup of XP can be tricky &#8211;  I recommend an imaging program like Norton Ghost.  On the other hand backing up your data and then re-applying the factory image is often a good idea as well (cleans out the old crap) &#8211; Your safest approach is to backup the data on your hard drive, and then remove it before sending the LT in for service.  This way you&#8217;re completely covered.</p>
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		By: Meryl Yourish		</title>
		<link>https://www.yourish.com/2007/05/11/3124/comment-page-1#comment-26255</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Meryl Yourish]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 23:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So Robert, let&#039;s say I get the backup drive I mentioned last week. Let&#039;s say I do a complete backup of this HD, then send the system off to HP. Let&#039;s further say they reformat my HD.

Then let&#039;s say I simply put my stuff back on the HD after I get it back.

Are you telling me it might not work because of that?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Robert, let&#8217;s say I get the backup drive I mentioned last week. Let&#8217;s say I do a complete backup of this HD, then send the system off to HP. Let&#8217;s further say they reformat my HD.</p>
<p>Then let&#8217;s say I simply put my stuff back on the HD after I get it back.</p>
<p>Are you telling me it might not work because of that?</p>
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		By: Jim Katz		</title>
		<link>https://www.yourish.com/2007/05/11/3124/comment-page-1#comment-26254</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Katz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 22:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I got lucky. With my new contract with a big pharmaceutical mfg in their marketing division information systems group, a new HP Compaq was FedEx&#039;d to me so I could work over their VPN. Had to get a big wide screen monitor, though, the laptop monitor was killing my eyes...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got lucky. With my new contract with a big pharmaceutical mfg in their marketing division information systems group, a new HP Compaq was FedEx&#8217;d to me so I could work over their VPN. Had to get a big wide screen monitor, though, the laptop monitor was killing my eyes&#8230;</p>
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		By: Robert		</title>
		<link>https://www.yourish.com/2007/05/11/3124/comment-page-1#comment-26250</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 13:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Windows XP has code in it to prevent you from using it on multiple computers.  I have tried changing out motherboards, and XP just refuses to start, you just get to a black screen and it hangs.  I don&#039;t trust XP, or Vista for that matter, because of the massive &quot;piracy paranoia&quot; at M$.  Their new &quot;Genuine Windows Advantage&quot; updates fail on my computer on a regular basis, even though it really is &quot;legit.&quot;  Changing something as simple as a hard drive or a video card can cause you to have to call M$ and &quot;reactivate&quot; Windows XP.  Vista has code in it that makes it almost impossible to use unless it&#039;s connected to the internet, for instance, if you want to play a CD or DVD, it has to check the DRM rules to see if the copyright owner will allow you to what you want to do.

Robert]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Windows XP has code in it to prevent you from using it on multiple computers.  I have tried changing out motherboards, and XP just refuses to start, you just get to a black screen and it hangs.  I don&#8217;t trust XP, or Vista for that matter, because of the massive &#8220;piracy paranoia&#8221; at M$.  Their new &#8220;Genuine Windows Advantage&#8221; updates fail on my computer on a regular basis, even though it really is &#8220;legit.&#8221;  Changing something as simple as a hard drive or a video card can cause you to have to call M$ and &#8220;reactivate&#8221; Windows XP.  Vista has code in it that makes it almost impossible to use unless it&#8217;s connected to the internet, for instance, if you want to play a CD or DVD, it has to check the DRM rules to see if the copyright owner will allow you to what you want to do.</p>
<p>Robert</p>
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		By: Meryl Yourish		</title>
		<link>https://www.yourish.com/2007/05/11/3124/comment-page-1#comment-26242</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Meryl Yourish]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 02:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Robert, I don&#039;t understand. I&#039;ve got Windows XP, the latest SP updates, all up to date. Why would it not work with a new machine? I read that Dell is now loading XP onto their new computers because customers don&#039;t want Vista.

How can my operating system not work with new hardware when they&#039;re still loading XP onto brand new computers?

As for backups, I&#039;m going to buy &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.freecomputerconsultant.com/usb-hard-drive.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;one of these&lt;/a&gt; next week. I&#039;ve been backing up the irreplaceable data (like my cat pics, though come to think of it, I haven&#039;t backed up my website in a while).

But I still don&#039;t see the point of their wanting to reformat my hard drive.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, I don&#8217;t understand. I&#8217;ve got Windows XP, the latest SP updates, all up to date. Why would it not work with a new machine? I read that Dell is now loading XP onto their new computers because customers don&#8217;t want Vista.</p>
<p>How can my operating system not work with new hardware when they&#8217;re still loading XP onto brand new computers?</p>
<p>As for backups, I&#8217;m going to buy <a href="http://www.freecomputerconsultant.com/usb-hard-drive.html" rel="nofollow">one of these</a> next week. I&#8217;ve been backing up the irreplaceable data (like my cat pics, though come to think of it, I haven&#8217;t backed up my website in a while).</p>
<p>But I still don&#8217;t see the point of their wanting to reformat my hard drive.</p>
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		By: Andy		</title>
		<link>https://www.yourish.com/2007/05/11/3124/comment-page-1#comment-26240</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 00:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, now can we answer your previous post with, &quot;Get a Mac&quot;?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, now can we answer your previous post with, &#8220;Get a Mac&#8221;?</p>
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		By: David Charlap		</title>
		<link>https://www.yourish.com/2007/05/11/3124/comment-page-1#comment-26239</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Charlap]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 22:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Robert: It&#039;s been my experience that vertical lines up a display are usually a sign that the LCD panel, or one of its connecting cables are bad, not the video card/chipset.

Odds are that HP won&#039;t have to touch anything on the motherboard, other than the ribbon cable that attaches the display to it.  Which is why their canned response of &quot;erase the hard drive&quot; makes no sense, in addition to being aggravating.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert: It&#8217;s been my experience that vertical lines up a display are usually a sign that the LCD panel, or one of its connecting cables are bad, not the video card/chipset.</p>
<p>Odds are that HP won&#8217;t have to touch anything on the motherboard, other than the ribbon cable that attaches the display to it.  Which is why their canned response of &#8220;erase the hard drive&#8221; makes no sense, in addition to being aggravating.</p>
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		By: David Charlap		</title>
		<link>https://www.yourish.com/2007/05/11/3124/comment-page-1#comment-26237</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Charlap]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 22:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You are right that they shouldn&#039;t touch your hard drive as a part of the expected repair procedure.

But they are right in telling you to back up all your data.  They may discover, during their analysis of the computer, that there is a software problem.  Or someone might just accidentally drop the drive, forcing them to replace it with a new one.

Always make a backup before sending a computer in for repair.

Actually, you should be making periodic backups on your own time, depsite this.  No hard drive will last forever, and quite a lot won&#039;t outlast the computer they&#039;re installed in.

These days, when an external USB hard drive (like &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.microcenter.com/byos/byos_single_product_results.phtml?product_id=235783&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this one&lt;/a&gt;) is cheap and easy to install, there really isn&#039;t much of an excuse.  Plug it in once a week (or whatever interval you&#039;re most comfortably) and drag your documents folder to it.  This way, when your drive dies (and it will, sooner or later), you can replace the dead drive, reinstall your applications, and restore your documents from that backup drive.

You can make a more comprehensive backup using software dedicated to the task, but even a simple &quot;drag/drop your documents&quot; backup will save what&#039;s most important when disaster eventually strikes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right that they shouldn&#8217;t touch your hard drive as a part of the expected repair procedure.</p>
<p>But they are right in telling you to back up all your data.  They may discover, during their analysis of the computer, that there is a software problem.  Or someone might just accidentally drop the drive, forcing them to replace it with a new one.</p>
<p>Always make a backup before sending a computer in for repair.</p>
<p>Actually, you should be making periodic backups on your own time, depsite this.  No hard drive will last forever, and quite a lot won&#8217;t outlast the computer they&#8217;re installed in.</p>
<p>These days, when an external USB hard drive (like <a HREF="http://www.microcenter.com/byos/byos_single_product_results.phtml?product_id=235783" rel="nofollow">this one</a>) is cheap and easy to install, there really isn&#8217;t much of an excuse.  Plug it in once a week (or whatever interval you&#8217;re most comfortably) and drag your documents folder to it.  This way, when your drive dies (and it will, sooner or later), you can replace the dead drive, reinstall your applications, and restore your documents from that backup drive.</p>
<p>You can make a more comprehensive backup using software dedicated to the task, but even a simple &#8220;drag/drop your documents&#8221; backup will save what&#8217;s most important when disaster eventually strikes.</p>
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