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		By: Lefty		</title>
		<link>https://www.yourish.com/2007/03/20/2886/comment-page-1#comment-25368</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lefty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 05:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The article isn&#039;t anti-Semitic (and I think it&#039;s kind of nasty to suggest it is), but Kamaiya clearly holds the lefty conceit that &quot;brave&quot; voices of dissent are being crushed by right-wing forces in the media and political scene. People criticize the pro-Israel lobby all the time, but among progessives AIPAC has acquired a reputation worthy of Keyser Soze. (AIPAC is hardly the only group to hold such a reputation - the anti-Castro lobby and the Oil Industry are also regarded as nefarious and all-powerful.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article isn&#8217;t anti-Semitic (and I think it&#8217;s kind of nasty to suggest it is), but Kamaiya clearly holds the lefty conceit that &#8220;brave&#8221; voices of dissent are being crushed by right-wing forces in the media and political scene. People criticize the pro-Israel lobby all the time, but among progessives AIPAC has acquired a reputation worthy of Keyser Soze. (AIPAC is hardly the only group to hold such a reputation &#8211; the anti-Castro lobby and the Oil Industry are also regarded as nefarious and all-powerful.)</p>
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		By: Michael Lonie		</title>
		<link>https://www.yourish.com/2007/03/20/2886/comment-page-1#comment-25366</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Lonie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 04:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Meanstreak Media.  LOL, I love that phrase.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanstreak Media.  LOL, I love that phrase.</p>
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		By: Joel		</title>
		<link>https://www.yourish.com/2007/03/20/2886/comment-page-1#comment-25333</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[MJ Rosenberg occasionally has a column in the Jerusalem Post. He is as unreadable as Frank Rich of the New York Times.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MJ Rosenberg occasionally has a column in the Jerusalem Post. He is as unreadable as Frank Rich of the New York Times.</p>
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		By: Ed Hausman		</title>
		<link>https://www.yourish.com/2007/03/20/2886/comment-page-1#comment-25326</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed Hausman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 02:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Carefully skewed definitions: neoconservative, neoconservatives as subscribing to the hard-right views of Israelâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />s Likud Party, neoconservatives as the moral equivalent of the Peruvian &quot;Shining Path&quot;.

Neoconservatives were originally ex-leftists who rebelled against the left&#039;s increasing fecklessness.  They are not robotic rightists, they are pragmatists.

The Likud is the lineal descendent of Jabotinsky, the original rightist Zionist.  Binyamin Netanyahu&#039;s father was Jabotinsky&#039;s secretary.

The Likud is a diverse political party, not a guerrilla terorist orgnization.

Amazing that we have to say these things, but the Meanstreak Media is determined to distort, even when they don&#039;t need to.  Why don&#039;t they simply accept that different people have different views, and instead of smearing the opposition, educate their audience about their own program?

Ahh ... no program ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carefully skewed definitions: neoconservative, neoconservatives as subscribing to the hard-right views of Israelâ€™s Likud Party, neoconservatives as the moral equivalent of the Peruvian &#8220;Shining Path&#8221;.</p>
<p>Neoconservatives were originally ex-leftists who rebelled against the left&#8217;s increasing fecklessness.  They are not robotic rightists, they are pragmatists.</p>
<p>The Likud is the lineal descendent of Jabotinsky, the original rightist Zionist.  Binyamin Netanyahu&#8217;s father was Jabotinsky&#8217;s secretary.</p>
<p>The Likud is a diverse political party, not a guerrilla terorist orgnization.</p>
<p>Amazing that we have to say these things, but the Meanstreak Media is determined to distort, even when they don&#8217;t need to.  Why don&#8217;t they simply accept that different people have different views, and instead of smearing the opposition, educate their audience about their own program?</p>
<p>Ahh &#8230; no program &#8230;</p>
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		By: Ephraim		</title>
		<link>https://www.yourish.com/2007/03/20/2886/comment-page-1#comment-25324</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 01:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry, meant to say &quot;class traitor&quot;, not &quot;class enemy&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, meant to say &#8220;class traitor&#8221;, not &#8220;class enemy&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Ephraim		</title>
		<link>https://www.yourish.com/2007/03/20/2886/comment-page-1#comment-25322</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ephraim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 22:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I knew just from your excerpt that Gary Kamiya wrote that article. He&#039;s an unreconstructed &quot;Israel Bad/Palestinians Good&quot; hack. He&#039;s pretty much the main reason I stopped reading Salon. 

Salon, in the very beginning, was an irreverent, counter-culture e-zine clearly written by a motley crew of sexually obsessed adolescents fuelled by copious amounts of espresso. You could almost see the spiked hair, tatoos and nose rings. It was actually fun to read.

Somewhere along the line they decided they had to be Responsible, Grown Up Journalists and promptly went off the rails. Probably had to do with their corporate sponsorship.

But we need to face some facts: in the US, Jews are considered White People of Privilege. To be socially and politcally acceptable to the Left, which consists almost exclusively of said White People of Privilege, you have to prove that you are a class, and especially a &quot;race&quot;, enemy. It is therefore impossible for a Jew to care about &lt;i&gt;Am Israel&lt;/i&gt; because they are fellow Jews and be a member in good standing of the Left. People of Color can identify with their own people and they are prasied by the Left because they are &quot;authentic&quot;. But Jews can&#039;t do that and get away with it because being Jewish is, for some reason, not on the list of acceptable or chic ethnicities (because we are, supposedly, no longer oppressed). For the Left, Israel is a cat&#039;s paw of American hegemony rather than a Jewish state that is there because the Jews, as Jews, wanted it and needed it. It can&#039;t be seen as something organically Jewish, it can only be seen as an agent of American imperialsim. Therefore, to prove his or her credentials, a Jew on the Left must &lt;i&gt;dafka&lt;/i&gt; reject Israel and side with the Arabs. Otherwise he or she is a (shudder!) &quot;Zionist&quot;.

Interestingly enough, Kamiya and I were in the same class (Class of &#039;70) at Berkeley High. I&#039;ve moved on, but he&#039;s obviously still there.

And, yeah &lt;i&gt;Suck&lt;/i&gt; absolutely &lt;i&gt;ruled&lt;/i&gt;. It was a total bummer when they went away. 

I miss &lt;i&gt;Spy&lt;/i&gt; magazine, too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew just from your excerpt that Gary Kamiya wrote that article. He&#8217;s an unreconstructed &#8220;Israel Bad/Palestinians Good&#8221; hack. He&#8217;s pretty much the main reason I stopped reading Salon. </p>
<p>Salon, in the very beginning, was an irreverent, counter-culture e-zine clearly written by a motley crew of sexually obsessed adolescents fuelled by copious amounts of espresso. You could almost see the spiked hair, tatoos and nose rings. It was actually fun to read.</p>
<p>Somewhere along the line they decided they had to be Responsible, Grown Up Journalists and promptly went off the rails. Probably had to do with their corporate sponsorship.</p>
<p>But we need to face some facts: in the US, Jews are considered White People of Privilege. To be socially and politcally acceptable to the Left, which consists almost exclusively of said White People of Privilege, you have to prove that you are a class, and especially a &#8220;race&#8221;, enemy. It is therefore impossible for a Jew to care about <i>Am Israel</i> because they are fellow Jews and be a member in good standing of the Left. People of Color can identify with their own people and they are prasied by the Left because they are &#8220;authentic&#8221;. But Jews can&#8217;t do that and get away with it because being Jewish is, for some reason, not on the list of acceptable or chic ethnicities (because we are, supposedly, no longer oppressed). For the Left, Israel is a cat&#8217;s paw of American hegemony rather than a Jewish state that is there because the Jews, as Jews, wanted it and needed it. It can&#8217;t be seen as something organically Jewish, it can only be seen as an agent of American imperialsim. Therefore, to prove his or her credentials, a Jew on the Left must <i>dafka</i> reject Israel and side with the Arabs. Otherwise he or she is a (shudder!) &#8220;Zionist&#8221;.</p>
<p>Interestingly enough, Kamiya and I were in the same class (Class of &#8217;70) at Berkeley High. I&#8217;ve moved on, but he&#8217;s obviously still there.</p>
<p>And, yeah <i>Suck</i> absolutely <i>ruled</i>. It was a total bummer when they went away. </p>
<p>I miss <i>Spy</i> magazine, too.</p>
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		By: Sabba Hillel		</title>
		<link>https://www.yourish.com/2007/03/20/2886/comment-page-1#comment-25321</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One should also mention that much of the Israeli press is as &lt;i&gt;unbiased&lt;/i&gt; as the Daily Kos, Cindy Sheehan, Jane Fonda, Goerge Soros, George Galloway, and that ilk.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One should also mention that much of the Israeli press is as <i>unbiased</i> as the Daily Kos, Cindy Sheehan, Jane Fonda, Goerge Soros, George Galloway, and that ilk.</p>
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		By: Geoff		</title>
		<link>https://www.yourish.com/2007/03/20/2886/comment-page-1#comment-25318</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 18:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Any article that cites Philip Weiss as an exemplar of Jewish thought automatically qualifies as laugable. Weiss loathes Israel because it gets in the way of his version of Judaism - which is all about gefilte fish and bagels.  

Of course this article is written by Gary Kamaiya, so I&#039;d expect nothing less.  The misrepresentation of the AJC article they cite also suggests that both Kamaiya and Weiss either have reading comprehension problems and/or are dishonest.  You can decide.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any article that cites Philip Weiss as an exemplar of Jewish thought automatically qualifies as laugable. Weiss loathes Israel because it gets in the way of his version of Judaism &#8211; which is all about gefilte fish and bagels.  </p>
<p>Of course this article is written by Gary Kamaiya, so I&#8217;d expect nothing less.  The misrepresentation of the AJC article they cite also suggests that both Kamaiya and Weiss either have reading comprehension problems and/or are dishonest.  You can decide.</p>
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		By: Robert		</title>
		<link>https://www.yourish.com/2007/03/20/2886/comment-page-1#comment-25315</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can honestly say I have rarely gone to Salon or Slate.  I prefer LGF, Jawa Report, MEMRI and Atlas Shrugged to get my news.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can honestly say I have rarely gone to Salon or Slate.  I prefer LGF, Jawa Report, MEMRI and Atlas Shrugged to get my news.</p>
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		By: Eric J		</title>
		<link>https://www.yourish.com/2007/03/20/2886/comment-page-1#comment-25314</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m amazed that Salon and Slate used to be my go-to online media sources. 

But I still miss Suck.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m amazed that Salon and Slate used to be my go-to online media sources. </p>
<p>But I still miss Suck.</p>
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