Comments on: Jackie Mason beats FauxJews for Jesus

By: Meryl Yourish

Meryl Yourish — Sat, 09 Dec 2006 04:21:44 +0000

You’re asking for a logical argument about religion?

Logic? In a religious argument?

I think the terms cancel one another out.

And I’m not going to get into this discussion, either.

By the way, it was the Sea of Reeds, not the Red Sea. You might want to give the original Hebrew a try.

By: Chris

Chris — Sat, 09 Dec 2006 02:17:01 +0000

Meryl – what makes you think that I’m putting down Judaism? Like I said before, if you have time for a logical argument, then no problem, I’ll bring forth my evidence and we can debate, but if you don’t, then why bother? An invalid banning is nothing more than an ad-hominen. You might also get irritated if I talked about your friends the way you talk about mine.

A warning truth claim is one that by it’s very statement must be taken seriously, beyond a mere cursory glance or ad hominen dismissal. If what is said is true, then there is going to be a consequence whether you believe it or not. If you follow the evidence and are able to disprove it through a valid, logical examination and refutation, then upon proving the whole claim false you rightly can say you have nothing to worry about. Again, you have to count the cost.

If Y’shua’s claims that he is the awaited prophet & moshiach are true (See Dt 18:15-22), then his resurrection represents a most amazing fulfillment of Jewish prophecy. On it’s face, if you don’t believe that God has spoken in the past through Moses and the prophets, then why bother claiming any heritage at all? I believe Abraham was given a promise, that Moses spoke with God, and that the nation of Israel was born through the Red Sea parting, freed from the bonds of slavery. I think that’s actually quite respectful of the Jewish nation and their heritage. I’m not calling them liars.

I study Torah, Nevi’im and Kethuvim. Can you say you’ve done the same with the 4 Gospels, Acts, and the letters from the apostles (where all the authors happened to be Jewish with the exception of Luke)?

If Jesus lives, then he fulfilled prophecy and is truly that awaited Messiah, yours as well as mine. If not, then 1.5 billion people are deceived regarding his claims. Now are we all insane or is there something we know that you might not?

If the scriptures don’t contain valid prophecy, then why bother calling the authors Prophets?

Either Jesus is insane, an immoral liar, or he’s telling the truth. He didn’t leave us any other options.

By: Hugh

Hugh — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 03:04:31 +0000

Chris, Jackie Mason is an ordained Rabbi. As far as I know, Yoshka has never quite achieved that status in the eyes of Jews.

My money would be on Mason, if your hypothetical meeting ever were to take place. He wouldn’t even have to crack jokes to make his point clearly.

The J4Js constitute a well-financed organization, which preys upon Jews who know little about Judaism. I think the trial would have been very interesting.

By: Meryl Yourish

Meryl Yourish — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 02:38:26 +0000

Chris, do you REALLY want to put down Judaism on this blog?

Think very hard before going any further.

By: Chris

Chris — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 02:23:12 +0000

Funny, but I’ll have to wait to see if Jackie Mason tries to pull the same stunt with Jesus when they meet. Funny thing about those warning truth claims – if you don’t bother checking them out they tend to bite back real hard.

Shalom Meryl.

By: Morris

Morris — Thu, 07 Dec 2006 08:10:08 +0000

That did sound like a fun debate. Just one thing… Jesus never converted. He was Jew to the day he died and came back again. Everything he ever preached was with accordance to Jewish law.
So, personally I jsut don’t get what the Christianity thing is all about, but if they want to pray to a Jewish guy, who am I to stop them.