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		By: Tony		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the link Daled. Valuable reminder about the role of Iran (Farsi for &quot;Aryan&quot;!) before and during WW2.

For a further perspective on the Iran Holocaust cartoon &quot;competition&quot;, Sarah Honig at JPost has a worthwhile article:

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1139395426402&#038;pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link Daled. Valuable reminder about the role of Iran (Farsi for &#8220;Aryan&#8221;!) before and during WW2.</p>
<p>For a further perspective on the Iran Holocaust cartoon &#8220;competition&#8221;, Sarah Honig at JPost has a worthwhile article:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1139395426402&#038;pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1139395426402&#038;pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull</a></p>
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		By: Daled Amos		</title>
		<link>https://www.yourish.com/2006/02/15/728/comment-page-1#comment-2582</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 07:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another angle to all of this is the part that Iran played in the Holocaust itself. For starters, there is an article by Edwin Black (IBM and the Holocaust): &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/01/08/INGODGH99Q1.DTL&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Denial of Holocaust nothing new in Iran--Ties to Hitler led to plots against British and Jews&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another angle to all of this is the part that Iran played in the Holocaust itself. For starters, there is an article by Edwin Black (IBM and the Holocaust): <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/01/08/INGODGH99Q1.DTL" rel="nofollow">Denial of Holocaust nothing new in Iran&#8211;Ties to Hitler led to plots against British and Jews</a></p>
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		By: Shtetl G		</title>
		<link>https://www.yourish.com/2006/02/15/728/comment-page-1#comment-2571</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with Tim Blair and the Israelis&#039; that are starting there own Anti-Semetic cartoon contest.  Bring it on!  I like to have my anti-semites right where I can see them.  Sunlight is the best disinfectant (though not so good for wine stains).

Everone always says the main lesson of the Holocaust is never again.  Thats great but never again seems to happen way to often.  My main lesson from the Holocaust is I&#039;m not going out like punk.  I got a .357 magnum for any anti-semite that wants a piece of me.  As I said, bring it on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Tim Blair and the Israelis&#8217; that are starting there own Anti-Semetic cartoon contest.  Bring it on!  I like to have my anti-semites right where I can see them.  Sunlight is the best disinfectant (though not so good for wine stains).</p>
<p>Everone always says the main lesson of the Holocaust is never again.  Thats great but never again seems to happen way to often.  My main lesson from the Holocaust is I&#8217;m not going out like punk.  I got a .357 magnum for any anti-semite that wants a piece of me.  As I said, bring it on.</p>
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		By: Tony		</title>
		<link>https://www.yourish.com/2006/02/15/728/comment-page-1#comment-2570</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Right on Meryl. 

And all the &quot;liberal&quot; media and blogs think that they should publish whatever dreck the Iranians put out - to show that &quot;we all believe in freedom of speech, y&#039;know&quot;! 

What&#039;s even more concerning is that some conservative blogs (e.g. Tim Blair) have said &quot;bring it on, we&#039;ll publish whatever cartoons you print&quot;. This is a dangerous approach unless handled with great care - freedom of speech has to be anchored in individual responsibility. 

If (as predicted) the cartoons are Jew-hate pictures, then thinking media should decline to publish them, on the grounds of decent people&#039;s distaste for hate literature. After all, the mainstream media declines to publish a lot of stuff - everyday. And anyway, there&#039;ll always be the fringe media, who&#039;ll publish anything sensational if they think it&#039;ll make them a dollar.

And as several of your posters have pointed out the whole cartoon cycle is a fraud - Danish media upsets Muslims (by portraying Mohammed) who respond with violence and fatwas, so Muslims feel they have a reciprocal right to defame Jews in response, attempt to undermine their status in Western countries, and deny Israel&#039;s legitimacy by lampooning the Holocuast. 

That seems a fair tit for tat (not!).

PS. There&#039;s a reason that European countries and Israel have laws against Holocaust denial - it&#039;s because all have been affected by the scourge of the swastika and, as extermination of the Jews saw a central plank in Nazi ideology, Holocaust denial was viewed by democratically elected Parliaments in Europe as a short step away from Nazi resurgence. So they passed a law against it - as well as against neo-Nazi parties, regalia, salutes etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on Meryl. </p>
<p>And all the &#8220;liberal&#8221; media and blogs think that they should publish whatever dreck the Iranians put out &#8211; to show that &#8220;we all believe in freedom of speech, y&#8217;know&#8221;! </p>
<p>What&#8217;s even more concerning is that some conservative blogs (e.g. Tim Blair) have said &#8220;bring it on, we&#8217;ll publish whatever cartoons you print&#8221;. This is a dangerous approach unless handled with great care &#8211; freedom of speech has to be anchored in individual responsibility. </p>
<p>If (as predicted) the cartoons are Jew-hate pictures, then thinking media should decline to publish them, on the grounds of decent people&#8217;s distaste for hate literature. After all, the mainstream media declines to publish a lot of stuff &#8211; everyday. And anyway, there&#8217;ll always be the fringe media, who&#8217;ll publish anything sensational if they think it&#8217;ll make them a dollar.</p>
<p>And as several of your posters have pointed out the whole cartoon cycle is a fraud &#8211; Danish media upsets Muslims (by portraying Mohammed) who respond with violence and fatwas, so Muslims feel they have a reciprocal right to defame Jews in response, attempt to undermine their status in Western countries, and deny Israel&#8217;s legitimacy by lampooning the Holocuast. </p>
<p>That seems a fair tit for tat (not!).</p>
<p>PS. There&#8217;s a reason that European countries and Israel have laws against Holocaust denial &#8211; it&#8217;s because all have been affected by the scourge of the swastika and, as extermination of the Jews saw a central plank in Nazi ideology, Holocaust denial was viewed by democratically elected Parliaments in Europe as a short step away from Nazi resurgence. So they passed a law against it &#8211; as well as against neo-Nazi parties, regalia, salutes etc.</p>
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		By: jonny		</title>
		<link>https://www.yourish.com/2006/02/15/728/comment-page-1#comment-2569</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 06:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We laugh at the killers they laugh at the killees.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We laugh at the killers they laugh at the killees.</p>
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		By: Robert		</title>
		<link>https://www.yourish.com/2006/02/15/728/comment-page-1#comment-2568</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 05:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with your sentiment, however, in most European countries it really is illegal to publish anything denying or ridiculing the Holocaust.  What the Muslims are in effect saying is that if one segment of the population doesn&#039;t agree, it&#039;s illegal, however, attacks on their religion is legal. In some European countries, hate speech can put you in prison. We in America do not have such hypocritical laws, and as much as I am choking on the concept, I have to agree that the European concept of &quot;free speech&quot; is fundamentally flawed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your sentiment, however, in most European countries it really is illegal to publish anything denying or ridiculing the Holocaust.  What the Muslims are in effect saying is that if one segment of the population doesn&#8217;t agree, it&#8217;s illegal, however, attacks on their religion is legal. In some European countries, hate speech can put you in prison. We in America do not have such hypocritical laws, and as much as I am choking on the concept, I have to agree that the European concept of &#8220;free speech&#8221; is fundamentally flawed.</p>
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		By: scottage		</title>
		<link>https://www.yourish.com/2006/02/15/728/comment-page-1#comment-2563</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 04:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is a classic win-win situation for Iran.  Either the West could publish the articles, which would allow Iran to further promote its perspective that the Holocaust was a myth and Israel should not exist, or it gives Iran an excuse to start another whole set of protest around the world, which may be close to his overall goals.  A nuclear weapon in this guy&#039;s hands is a very scary concept, indeed!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a classic win-win situation for Iran.  Either the West could publish the articles, which would allow Iran to further promote its perspective that the Holocaust was a myth and Israel should not exist, or it gives Iran an excuse to start another whole set of protest around the world, which may be close to his overall goals.  A nuclear weapon in this guy&#8217;s hands is a very scary concept, indeed!</p>
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		By: jonny		</title>
		<link>https://www.yourish.com/2006/02/15/728/comment-page-1#comment-2562</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 01:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Freedom of Expression in the Iranian press?

Does anyone remember Zhara Kazemi, the Canadian photo journalist who was brutally raped and murdered for trying to take photographs at a womens prison in Iran?

Tom,

or how about this, on the left side cartoons from the Iranian press that were critical of the Iranian government and on the right side cartoon from the US press that were critical of the US government. At the bottom of the left column it will say &quot;resulted in torcher and execution of cartoonists&quot; and at the bottom of the right column it will say &quot;resulted in cartoonists finding more employment&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freedom of Expression in the Iranian press?</p>
<p>Does anyone remember Zhara Kazemi, the Canadian photo journalist who was brutally raped and murdered for trying to take photographs at a womens prison in Iran?</p>
<p>Tom,</p>
<p>or how about this, on the left side cartoons from the Iranian press that were critical of the Iranian government and on the right side cartoon from the US press that were critical of the US government. At the bottom of the left column it will say &#8220;resulted in torcher and execution of cartoonists&#8221; and at the bottom of the right column it will say &#8220;resulted in cartoonists finding more employment&#8221;.</p>
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		By: aunursa		</title>
		<link>https://www.yourish.com/2006/02/15/728/comment-page-1#comment-2560</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On a lighter note ... one more month until IEAFPD4]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a lighter note &#8230; one more month until IEAFPD4</p>
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		By: Jack Rich		</title>
		<link>https://www.yourish.com/2006/02/15/728/comment-page-1#comment-2559</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with your logic, but it is a waste of effort.  Islamists do not, can not, respond to logic.

The problem is Islam itself, which, in its Iranian manifestation, sees a chance to rid the world of us Jews.

They&#039;d also like to convert or kill  Christians, but there&#039;s far too many.

Enough.  We should bomb their nuclear sites; at least set them back in their attempt to complete the Shoah which they denied happened in the first place.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your logic, but it is a waste of effort.  Islamists do not, can not, respond to logic.</p>
<p>The problem is Islam itself, which, in its Iranian manifestation, sees a chance to rid the world of us Jews.</p>
<p>They&#8217;d also like to convert or kill  Christians, but there&#8217;s far too many.</p>
<p>Enough.  We should bomb their nuclear sites; at least set them back in their attempt to complete the Shoah which they denied happened in the first place.</p>
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