Comments on: The Obama administration and the end of Israeli-Palestinian peace

By: Michael Lonie

Michael Lonie — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:20:21 +0000

Wolfwalker,
You can’t. I see they did not mention a contiguouos Israel. Here we see the true aims of the Obama “smart diplomacy”. They really are intending to sell out Israel. The Euros should watch carefully. When they get into trouble and call for their ally America (under Obama and his consiglieri) to come help the reply will be “So sorry, we’re busy with financing health care so we can’t finance the military. Best of luck (to your enemies).”

The Israel position for peace is still similar to the one Israel offerred in August 1967, negotiated peace, recognized borders for Israel, and Israel will give back all the captured land except Jerusalem. The Arab response then was the Three No’s: no negotiations, no recognition, no peace. For most of them that is still the position. That’s basically what the Palis say, when you distangle their lies. They’ll do some negotiating, but never in good faith, and they’ll always demand more and more, no matter what Israel offers.

There should be a moratorium on the “Peace Process”. Let it cool for a while. Israel’s enemies will still attack, but they’ve been doing that throughout the Peace Process so what else is new? Israel should smash their mouths when necessary. If the Palis see they are making no progress in ten years via their terrorism wars, then maybe they’ll be ready to try a real, negotiated in good faith peace, though I doubt it.

By: wolfwalker

wolfwalker — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:50:31 +0000

Good expose. However, I think you missed a point, which may be minor and may not. Note the first quoted paragraph from the linked document:

“The time has come to relaunch negotiations without preconditions to reach a final status agreement on two states: a Jewish state of Israel, and a viable, independent and contiguous Palestine that ends the occupation that began in 1967 and realizes and unleashes the full potential of the Palestinian people.”

How can you turn the Gaza Strip and the West Bank into one contiguous state of Palestine and still retain anything that looks like the 1967 borders for Israel?

By: Alex Bensky

Alex Bensky — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:54:12 +0000

So Israel, “grudgingly and with caveats” (apparently one such caveat is “we don’t want to be killed by our neighbors”) accepts the idea of a two-state solution. Problem is, of course, that despite soft words whispered to western diplomats and journalists, the Palestinians haven’t reciprocated or even pretended to do so.

As part of Oslo they were going to accept Israel but the most they did was say that they would consider the provisions of its charter about destroying Israel “iniperative.” However, a cursory web search shows they never actually did so, the offendeding provisions are still in their charter, and last summer’s Fatah convention reiterated and re-endorsed the idea of a one state solution.

But that’s OK because as I have discerned, the road to peace in the world’s eyes is: “From the Jews, deeds; from the Arabs, words.”