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		<title>By: Meryl Yourish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meryl Yourish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 12:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Simone. I get a lot of commenters who use the same tactics to smear Israel, not honestly ask questions. I leaped to the wrong conclusion.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Lonie</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2009/08/31/8692/comment-page-1#comment-37469</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Lonie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 03:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simone,
I do not think there is much Israel can do by itself to end the attacks on it, short of committing suicide.
What I thought Israel ought to have done in Gaza last year is go in and kill every Hamas member it could catch.  Then split the place up into tribal areas each run by Arab tribal sheikhs, chosen according to the customs of the tribes for elevating men to those positions of authority, whatever their customs are.  Tell them this: &quot;You are now in charge.  Run the place however you want, we don&#039;t care.  No attacks on Israel and no terrorist bases in your territory.  If there are any attacks on Israel, and be sure we will know where they come from, we&#039;ll come in and kill you, personally.  Aside from that you&#039;re the boss here.&quot;  Basically these would be like Mob concessions.  I think that would be the best chance of stopping the attacks.  Note that I am proposing something a lot nastier than the Israelis have ever acted.
On a larger scale I think the civilized world could do something that might, I say might, work.  That would be to cut off completely all payments to the Palestinian Arabs, from any source, except for what they can earn thorugh selling their peaceful manufactures or services.  The Palis get enormous welfare payments from all over the world, including Israel, the USA, and Europe.  Cut them all off.  If the Palis have to learn to live by honest labor and not welfare they will not have time to plot terrorism.  Let them work or starve.  Frankly, I would not care which.  After observing their terrorism and refusals to make peace for decades, I am fed up with them.
I doubt either of these will happen.  Frankly, I think the war will continue until the Israelis do so much damage to the Palis, kill so many of them, that the Arabs become sick of being killed.  Only when the Palis are so fearful of what Israel will do to them if they raise their hand against the Jews, that they do not dare even to speak of attacking them, will Israel have peace.  Judging by what it took to put down the Nazis, killing about 10 percent of the Germans, that means killing around 300-400,000 Pali Arab men.  I doubt Israel will ever do this, so I doubt that Israel will ever have peace from terrorism.
Depressing?  Yeah, but it isn&#039;t Israel that is keeping this war alive.  The whole initiative for this war rests with Israel&#039;s enemies.  If they stopped trying to destroy Israel and stopped trying to kill the Jews they would have nothing to fear from Israel.  Since making peace neither Egypt nor Jordan have had anything to fear from Israel.  Other Muslims could have that too, but they don&#039;t want it.  Their vanity will not permit it.  They have never had to pay any significant price for their evil, genocidal intentions.  Not enough of them have yet been killed to discourage the survivors.  And that&#039;s the way it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simone,<br />
I do not think there is much Israel can do by itself to end the attacks on it, short of committing suicide.</p>
<p>What I thought Israel ought to have done in Gaza last year is go in and kill every Hamas member it could catch.  Then split the place up into tribal areas each run by Arab tribal sheikhs, chosen according to the customs of the tribes for elevating men to those positions of authority, whatever their customs are.  Tell them this: &#8220;You are now in charge.  Run the place however you want, we don&#8217;t care.  No attacks on Israel and no terrorist bases in your territory.  If there are any attacks on Israel, and be sure we will know where they come from, we&#8217;ll come in and kill you, personally.  Aside from that you&#8217;re the boss here.&#8221;  Basically these would be like Mob concessions.  I think that would be the best chance of stopping the attacks.  Note that I am proposing something a lot nastier than the Israelis have ever acted.</p>
<p>On a larger scale I think the civilized world could do something that might, I say might, work.  That would be to cut off completely all payments to the Palestinian Arabs, from any source, except for what they can earn thorugh selling their peaceful manufactures or services.  The Palis get enormous welfare payments from all over the world, including Israel, the USA, and Europe.  Cut them all off.  If the Palis have to learn to live by honest labor and not welfare they will not have time to plot terrorism.  Let them work or starve.  Frankly, I would not care which.  After observing their terrorism and refusals to make peace for decades, I am fed up with them.</p>
<p>I doubt either of these will happen.  Frankly, I think the war will continue until the Israelis do so much damage to the Palis, kill so many of them, that the Arabs become sick of being killed.  Only when the Palis are so fearful of what Israel will do to them if they raise their hand against the Jews, that they do not dare even to speak of attacking them, will Israel have peace.  Judging by what it took to put down the Nazis, killing about 10 percent of the Germans, that means killing around 300-400,000 Pali Arab men.  I doubt Israel will ever do this, so I doubt that Israel will ever have peace from terrorism.</p>
<p>Depressing?  Yeah, but it isn&#8217;t Israel that is keeping this war alive.  The whole initiative for this war rests with Israel&#8217;s enemies.  If they stopped trying to destroy Israel and stopped trying to kill the Jews they would have nothing to fear from Israel.  Since making peace neither Egypt nor Jordan have had anything to fear from Israel.  Other Muslims could have that too, but they don&#8217;t want it.  Their vanity will not permit it.  They have never had to pay any significant price for their evil, genocidal intentions.  Not enough of them have yet been killed to discourage the survivors.  And that&#8217;s the way it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Simone</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2009/08/31/8692/comment-page-1#comment-37468</link>
		<dc:creator>Simone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 02:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meryl -
My goodness. You misunderstood me. Really. I am a Zionist. I was not asking the questions to defame Jews or Israel. I agree with almost everything you posted in your follow-up comment (save for the charge that I am anti-Israel).
I only asked to get your opinion. Israel has made too many concessions already. It is continually under rocket attack and yet still has sent tons upon tons of aid into Gaza. I would like see Israel&#039;s borders and society free from Arab-inflicted violence but hasn&#039;t Israel done enough already to advance peace? If the Arabs won&#039;t play ball, then what?
What do you think Israel should do next? This is what I should have asked at the start. I humbly apologize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meryl -</p>
<p>My goodness. You misunderstood me. Really. I am a Zionist. I was not asking the questions to defame Jews or Israel. I agree with almost everything you posted in your follow-up comment (save for the charge that I am anti-Israel).</p>
<p>I only asked to get your opinion. Israel has made too many concessions already. It is continually under rocket attack and yet still has sent tons upon tons of aid into Gaza. I would like see Israel&#8217;s borders and society free from Arab-inflicted violence but hasn&#8217;t Israel done enough already to advance peace? If the Arabs won&#8217;t play ball, then what?</p>
<p>What do you think Israel should do next? This is what I should have asked at the start. I humbly apologize.</p>
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		<title>By: Meryl Yourish</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2009/08/31/8692/comment-page-1#comment-37465</link>
		<dc:creator>Meryl Yourish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let us note the tenor of the above comment. The post, which is about the fact that the Arabs have never recognized the Jewish claim to the land of Israel and want to destroy the Jewish state, turns the issue completely around. The commenter ignores the facts presented in the post, and accuses Israel of simply wanting war as an &quot;alternative.&quot; And of course, the accusation that Israel wants to &quot;obliterate the Palestinians&quot; stands as another accusation of genocide. (Which has been confirmed, by the way, as the Worst. Genocide. Ever. since the Palestinian population has exploded since 1967, which is, well, the opposite of genocide. But don&#039;t let facts get in the way of your opinion.)
This is the typical anti-Israel comment that I almost never publish. I thought I&#039;d let it stand as an example of why I don&#039;t bother with the Israel-haters. We shall see if Simone returns, or if this was a drive-by anti-Israel comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us note the tenor of the above comment. The post, which is about the fact that the Arabs have never recognized the Jewish claim to the land of Israel and want to destroy the Jewish state, turns the issue completely around. The commenter ignores the facts presented in the post, and accuses Israel of simply wanting war as an &#8220;alternative.&#8221; And of course, the accusation that Israel wants to &#8220;obliterate the Palestinians&#8221; stands as another accusation of genocide. (Which has been confirmed, by the way, as the Worst. Genocide. Ever. since the Palestinian population has exploded since 1967, which is, well, the opposite of genocide. But don&#8217;t let facts get in the way of your opinion.) </p>
<p>This is the typical anti-Israel comment that I almost never publish. I thought I&#8217;d let it stand as an example of why I don&#8217;t bother with the Israel-haters. We shall see if Simone returns, or if this was a drive-by anti-Israel comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Simone</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2009/08/31/8692/comment-page-1#comment-37463</link>
		<dc:creator>Simone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 05:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then what&#039;s the alternative? Endless war with Hamas and the other haters? Should Israel obliterate the Palestinians? Are there other options available?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then what&#8217;s the alternative? Endless war with Hamas and the other haters? Should Israel obliterate the Palestinians? Are there other options available?</p>
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