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		<title>By: David C.</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2009/07/10/8134/comment-page-1#comment-36901</link>
		<dc:creator>David C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pamela: There are a lot of different cycles that contribute to global climate change (which is and always has been changing).  The ones that most significantly impact our climate are the solar cycles at approximate 11, 22, 87, 210, 2300 and 6000-year intervals.  (See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_variation#Solar_cycles).

There are other cycles from other sources as well, including perturbations in Earth&#039;s orbit, changes in the orientation of the Earth&#039;s axis, the motion of our solar system through galaxy, and countless others.

Taken together with observations we find short-term (a few decade) cycles that we all experience all the time (when we notice a few hot or cold years.)  There are longer-term cycles that we generally don&#039;t notice, including an approximate 1500-year cycle of global warming and cooling, which explains the medieval warming period, the little ice age, and many other similar periods throughout history.  And then there are 40,000-100,000 year cycles that produce ice ages.

None of these are cause by human beings and none of them can be stopped slowed or in any way affected by human activity.  Nevertheless, there are scores of politicians who claim otherwise and want to bankrupt all of Western civilization in efforts to take control of these cycles.  Some, I&#039;m sure, have just been duped by lobbyists.  Others know the truth and are deliberately using global warming hysteria as an excuse to grab power and establish themselves as dictators.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pamela: There are a lot of different cycles that contribute to global climate change (which is and always has been changing).  The ones that most significantly impact our climate are the solar cycles at approximate 11, 22, 87, 210, 2300 and 6000-year intervals.  (See also <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_variation#Solar_cycles)" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_variation#Solar_cycles)</a>.</p>
<p>There are other cycles from other sources as well, including perturbations in Earth&#8217;s orbit, changes in the orientation of the Earth&#8217;s axis, the motion of our solar system through galaxy, and countless others.</p>
<p>Taken together with observations we find short-term (a few decade) cycles that we all experience all the time (when we notice a few hot or cold years.)  There are longer-term cycles that we generally don&#8217;t notice, including an approximate 1500-year cycle of global warming and cooling, which explains the medieval warming period, the little ice age, and many other similar periods throughout history.  And then there are 40,000-100,000 year cycles that produce ice ages.</p>
<p>None of these are cause by human beings and none of them can be stopped slowed or in any way affected by human activity.  Nevertheless, there are scores of politicians who claim otherwise and want to bankrupt all of Western civilization in efforts to take control of these cycles.  Some, I&#8217;m sure, have just been duped by lobbyists.  Others know the truth and are deliberately using global warming hysteria as an excuse to grab power and establish themselves as dictators.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Lonie</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2009/07/10/8134/comment-page-1#comment-36888</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Lonie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 02:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan,
&quot;Social Justice&quot; never means anything voluntary or non-coercive.  It&#039;s one of those euphemisms beloved of the left that means the opposite of what it says, like the People&#039;s Democratic Republic of Korea, which tyrannizes the people, is by no stretch of the imagination democratic, and looks more and more like a monarchy rather than a republic.  &quot;Social Justice&quot; is the planned society and economy tarted up with some faux jewelry and fake furs to make it look prettier and less like fascistic Communism.  Its premise is injustice.  It&#039;s MO is &quot;You earn bread and I and my political cronies will eat it.  If you complain we have a nice concentration camp for you at Minot, North Dakota.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan,<br />
&#8220;Social Justice&#8221; never means anything voluntary or non-coercive.  It&#8217;s one of those euphemisms beloved of the left that means the opposite of what it says, like the People&#8217;s Democratic Republic of Korea, which tyrannizes the people, is by no stretch of the imagination democratic, and looks more and more like a monarchy rather than a republic.  &#8220;Social Justice&#8221; is the planned society and economy tarted up with some faux jewelry and fake furs to make it look prettier and less like fascistic Communism.  Its premise is injustice.  It&#8217;s MO is &#8220;You earn bread and I and my political cronies will eat it.  If you complain we have a nice concentration camp for you at Minot, North Dakota.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Furman</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2009/07/10/8134/comment-page-1#comment-36885</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Furman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On second thought I am going to hedge on my hedge.

For my entire life, I have only EVER seen the term &quot;social justice&quot; used as a euphemism for State looting and bullying in the name of feel-good boondoggles and hard-left agitation.  I believe that ANSWER, Barney Frank, tHugo Chavez, William Ayers, and the International Solidbodilywaste Movement all claim the mantle of &quot;social justice.&quot;

So what are some examples of the term &quot;social justice&quot; being applied to voluntary, non-coercive (i.e. the way it is supposed to happen in a free society) benevolence?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On second thought I am going to hedge on my hedge.</p>
<p>For my entire life, I have only EVER seen the term &#8220;social justice&#8221; used as a euphemism for State looting and bullying in the name of feel-good boondoggles and hard-left agitation.  I believe that ANSWER, Barney Frank, tHugo Chavez, William Ayers, and the International Solidbodilywaste Movement all claim the mantle of &#8220;social justice.&#8221;</p>
<p>So what are some examples of the term &#8220;social justice&#8221; being applied to voluntary, non-coercive (i.e. the way it is supposed to happen in a free society) benevolence?</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Furman</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2009/07/10/8134/comment-page-1#comment-36883</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Furman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meryl responds:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Alan, pursuing social justice is a deeply held Jewish value. But that still means I get to determine what causes I want to contribute to. Not the government.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

...which is what I should have said.  Point well taken!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meryl responds:</p>
<blockquote><p>Alan, pursuing social justice is a deeply held Jewish value. But that still means I get to determine what causes I want to contribute to. Not the government.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230;which is what I should have said.  Point well taken!</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2009/07/10/8134/comment-page-1#comment-36877</link>
		<dc:creator>Pamela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aren&#039;t we in a &quot;Move farther away from the Sun for the next 15 years&quot; cycle right now? I think it started 2-3 years ago.
Also the amount of sunspot and solar flare activity is starting to decrease?

Combine those 2 events and the ice caps-which have had a history of expanding and shrinking--kind of like a spandex dress- through history--well I think the polar bears will have plenty of area to roam in a few years.


Orange says a Heya  toTig and Miss Gracie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aren&#8217;t we in a &#8220;Move farther away from the Sun for the next 15 years&#8221; cycle right now? I think it started 2-3 years ago.<br />
Also the amount of sunspot and solar flare activity is starting to decrease?</p>
<p>Combine those 2 events and the ice caps-which have had a history of expanding and shrinking&#8211;kind of like a spandex dress- through history&#8211;well I think the polar bears will have plenty of area to roam in a few years.</p>
<p>Orange says a Heya  toTig and Miss Gracie.</p>
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		<title>By: T. Burke</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2009/07/10/8134/comment-page-1#comment-36876</link>
		<dc:creator>T. Burke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms Yourish, look out, the Dark Side is going to get you.
Regards &quot;Global Warming&quot;, ask a true believer if they know
what the North American Ice Sheet was.  Was it&#039;s disappearance
a good or bad thing?  How mauny SUV&#039;s caused the melting, etc.
Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms Yourish, look out, the Dark Side is going to get you.<br />
Regards &#8220;Global Warming&#8221;, ask a true believer if they know<br />
what the North American Ice Sheet was.  Was it&#8217;s disappearance<br />
a good or bad thing?  How mauny SUV&#8217;s caused the melting, etc.<br />
Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Meryl Yourish</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2009/07/10/8134/comment-page-1#comment-36875</link>
		<dc:creator>Meryl Yourish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan, pursuing social justice &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; a deeply held Jewish value. But that still means I get to determine what causes I want to contribute to. Not the government.

Then again, our president and vice president aren&#039;t very much into contributing to social justice with their own money. They&#039;re much better at using ours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan, pursuing social justice <em>is</em> a deeply held Jewish value. But that still means I get to determine what causes I want to contribute to. Not the government.</p>
<p>Then again, our president and vice president aren&#8217;t very much into contributing to social justice with their own money. They&#8217;re much better at using ours.</p>
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		<title>By: Meryl Yourish</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2009/07/10/8134/comment-page-1#comment-36874</link>
		<dc:creator>Meryl Yourish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Add to what Michael said the fact that scientists who question the lack of evidence (and science) on global warming have been suppressed, called insane, and kept out of the plum jobs and research grants, and you begin to get why I call it a hoax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Add to what Michael said the fact that scientists who question the lack of evidence (and science) on global warming have been suppressed, called insane, and kept out of the plum jobs and research grants, and you begin to get why I call it a hoax.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Furman</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2009/07/10/8134/comment-page-1#comment-36872</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Furman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Now I just want the government to keep its damned hands out of my pocketbook. I work hard for my money, and I get to be the one that dictates my behaviors—not the nanny state.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ah, but according to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://fest.sfjff.org/film/group?id=1000007&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;San Fransicko Jewish Film Festival&lt;/a&gt;, &quot;pursuing social justice [translation: having the nanny state&#039;s damned hands loot your neighbor&#039;s earnings for supposedly politically correct purposes] is in itself a deeply held Jewish value.&quot;

Bonus: second item down is a Rachel Corrie whitewash.

Battered spouse of the Left, yadda yadda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Now I just want the government to keep its damned hands out of my pocketbook. I work hard for my money, and I get to be the one that dictates my behaviors—not the nanny state.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ah, but according to the <a href="http://fest.sfjff.org/film/group?id=1000007" rel="nofollow">San Fransicko Jewish Film Festival</a>, &#8220;pursuing social justice [translation: having the nanny state's damned hands loot your neighbor's earnings for supposedly politically correct purposes] is in itself a deeply held Jewish value.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bonus: second item down is a Rachel Corrie whitewash.</p>
<p>Battered spouse of the Left, yadda yadda.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2009/07/10/8134/comment-page-1#comment-36869</link>
		<dc:creator>Pamela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 03:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn Global Warming. How often do you get frost warnings in July? 

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/prince-edward-island/story/2009/07/08/pei-frost-july.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn Global Warming. How often do you get frost warnings in July? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.cbc.ca/canada/prince-edward-island/story/2009/07/08/pei-frost-july.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbc.ca/canada/prince-edward-island/story/2009/07/08/pei-frost-july.html</a></p>
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