Comments on: World reaction to the Gaza ops: The D-word is found http://www.yourish.com/2008/12/27/5823 Cutting straight to the point Mon, 13 Feb 2012 02:14:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Michael Lonie http://www.yourish.com/2008/12/27/5823/comment-page-1#comment-34927 Michael Lonie Sun, 28 Dec 2008 00:57:33 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/?p=5823#comment-34927 Mary Jo, The Palestinian Arabs' long term goal towards Israel is the destruction of that country and the genocide of the Jews. How do you think Israel can compromise with that? As for negotiating a real peace, the initiative is exclusively in the Arabs' hands. There is nothing Israel can do to bring about peace, except possibly commit mass suicide, which most of us consider unacceptable (but which most Euros and some American policy makers seem to consider a viable option). Israel can do nothing to bring about peace, and the Arabs will do nothing, for they seek genocide of the Jews. That goes for the "embittered and divisive" people among the Pali Arabs. The Palis do not want a state and do not want peace. They have petulently tossed away every opportunity they had, and they had many, to set up a state or to make peace. If they can kill Jews they will be content with whatever tyrant wants to oppress them. The Palis are marinated in their jihadist, nihilistic psychopathology, an unholy amalgam of modern day totalitarianism, antisemitism, and will to power, mixed together with backward looking Islamic supremacism and religious hatred. The same mixture powers the jihadists who attack every non-Muslim group all over the world, as shown recently in India. So they came first for the Jews, but they are coming for you next. Beware lest you soon have to face the same choices Israel has had to face for decades, resistance or death. Kumbaya will not deflect the jihadists. Mary Jo,
The Palestinian Arabs’ long term goal towards Israel is the destruction of that country and the genocide of the Jews. How do you think Israel can compromise with that?

As for negotiating a real peace, the initiative is exclusively in the Arabs’ hands. There is nothing Israel can do to bring about peace, except possibly commit mass suicide, which most of us consider unacceptable (but which most Euros and some American policy makers seem to consider a viable option). Israel can do nothing to bring about peace, and the Arabs will do nothing, for they seek genocide of the Jews. That goes for the “embittered and divisive” people among the Pali Arabs.

The Palis do not want a state and do not want peace. They have petulently tossed away every opportunity they had, and they had many, to set up a state or to make peace. If they can kill Jews they will be content with whatever tyrant wants to oppress them. The Palis are marinated in their jihadist, nihilistic psychopathology, an unholy amalgam of modern day totalitarianism, antisemitism, and will to power, mixed together with backward looking Islamic supremacism and religious hatred.

The same mixture powers the jihadists who attack every non-Muslim group all over the world, as shown recently in India. So they came first for the Jews, but they are coming for you next. Beware lest you soon have to face the same choices Israel has had to face for decades, resistance or death. Kumbaya will not deflect the jihadists.

]]> By: david foster http://www.yourish.com/2008/12/27/5823/comment-page-1#comment-34909 david foster Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:22:51 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/?p=5823#comment-34909 Mary Jo, you are implicitly assuming that the Palestinian leadership values the same kind of things that normal people value: peace, economic growth, artistic creativity, life itself. I submit that there is not the slightest warrant for this assumption. The motto of the Spanish Falangists was "long live death!" The worldview of the Palestinian leadership is similar but perhaps even more extreme. Mary Jo, you are implicitly assuming that the Palestinian leadership values the same kind of things that normal people value: peace, economic growth, artistic creativity, life itself. I submit that there is not the slightest warrant for this assumption.

The motto of the Spanish Falangists was “long live death!” The worldview of the Palestinian leadership is similar but perhaps even more extreme.

]]> By: Tom Frank http://www.yourish.com/2008/12/27/5823/comment-page-1#comment-34908 Tom Frank Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:21:57 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/?p=5823#comment-34908 Disproportionate? Absolutely; Israel is once again holding back. Disproportionate? Absolutely; Israel is once again holding back.

]]> By: Meryl Yourish http://www.yourish.com/2008/12/27/5823/comment-page-1#comment-34903 Meryl Yourish Sat, 27 Dec 2008 17:02:51 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/?p=5823#comment-34903 Say, Mary Jo, you are aware that Israel gave the Sinai Peninsula back to Egypt in the 1970s, aren't you? Right now, Israel's plans for the Sinai are generally of the vacation variety. I hear there are some decent resorts there. Methinks you need to do a little more homework before asking those tough questions. Say, Mary Jo, you are aware that Israel gave the Sinai Peninsula back to Egypt in the 1970s, aren’t you? Right now, Israel’s plans for the Sinai are generally of the vacation variety. I hear there are some decent resorts there.

Methinks you need to do a little more homework before asking those tough questions.

]]> By: Mary Jo http://www.yourish.com/2008/12/27/5823/comment-page-1#comment-34902 Mary Jo Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:59:03 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/?p=5823#comment-34902 Question: What is Israel's long term goal toward Gaza, West Bank, East Jerusalem, the Sanai Peninsula and the Golan Heights? Next Question: What is the Palestinians long term goal toward Gaza, West Bank, East Jerusalem, the Sanai Peninsula and the Golan Heights? Last Question: What can both sides do to truly, honestly and respectfully negotiate a REAL peaceful truce between these two very embittered and divisive peoples? Question: What is Israel’s long term goal toward Gaza, West Bank, East Jerusalem, the Sanai Peninsula and the Golan Heights?

Next Question: What is the Palestinians long term goal toward Gaza, West Bank, East Jerusalem, the Sanai Peninsula and the Golan Heights?

Last Question: What can both sides do to truly, honestly and respectfully negotiate a REAL peaceful truce between these two very embittered and divisive peoples?

]]> By: david foster http://www.yourish.com/2008/12/27/5823/comment-page-1#comment-34901 david foster Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:41:08 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/?p=5823#comment-34901 What does Sarkozy think the current status of France would be had the U.S. and Britain not used "disproportionate violence" against Nazi Germany? What does Sarkozy think the current status of France would be had the U.S. and Britain not used “disproportionate violence” against Nazi Germany?

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