Comments on: Israeli leadership thrilled it denied democracy to Israel http://www.yourish.com/2008/10/13/5451 Cutting straight to the point Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:21:52 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: mrzee http://www.yourish.com/2008/10/13/5451/comment-page-1#comment-33845 mrzee Thu, 16 Oct 2008 04:08:07 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/?p=5451#comment-33845 As I recall Olmert became Kadima party leader because he was Deputy Prime Minister and the Israeli Supreme Court ruled Sharon's incapacity was temporary. Permanent incapacity would've required a party primary to choose a new leader. As I recall Olmert became Kadima party leader because he was Deputy Prime Minister and the Israeli Supreme Court ruled Sharon’s incapacity was temporary. Permanent incapacity would’ve required a party primary to choose a new leader.

]]> By: Michael Lonie http://www.yourish.com/2008/10/13/5451/comment-page-1#comment-33814 Michael Lonie Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:23:19 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/?p=5451#comment-33814 The worm in the apple of Israel's politics is the system of proportional representation. This system, which the Third and Fourth French Republics and the Weimar Republic also used, is designed to produce unstable governments and large numbers of freaky, splinter parties. A system of election districts with first-past-the-post-wins eletions, as in the US, France's Fifth Republic, and the UK, is more conducive to stable government. It has its own problems, of course, but at least manages to produce a government that can govern. The worm in the apple of Israel’s politics is the system of proportional representation. This system, which the Third and Fourth French Republics and the Weimar Republic also used, is designed to produce unstable governments and large numbers of freaky, splinter parties. A system of election districts with first-past-the-post-wins eletions, as in the US, France’s Fifth Republic, and the UK, is more conducive to stable government. It has its own problems, of course, but at least manages to produce a government that can govern.

]]> By: Sultan Knish http://www.yourish.com/2008/10/13/5451/comment-page-1#comment-33808 Sultan Knish Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:51:42 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/?p=5451#comment-33808 While Olmert did run for office via Kadima, his role as the incumbent itself illegal as Sharon had been elected as the head of the Likud party Sharon had no right to remain in office once he left the Likud. It required a corrupt deal with the AG to let Sharon hold office even though he had left the party that had actually won office Olmert inherited Sharon's role even though it should have been Netanyahu who took office once Sharon left Kadima had the law been followed, that election at least would have been rather different While Olmert did run for office via Kadima, his role as the incumbent itself illegal as Sharon had been elected as the head of the Likud party

Sharon had no right to remain in office once he left the Likud. It required a corrupt deal with the AG to let Sharon hold office even though he had left the party that had actually won office

Olmert inherited Sharon’s role even though it should have been Netanyahu who took office once Sharon left Kadima

had the law been followed, that election at least would have been rather different

]]> By: chsw http://www.yourish.com/2008/10/13/5451/comment-page-1#comment-33807 chsw Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:51:29 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/?p=5451#comment-33807 OK. I was wrong. chsw OK. I was wrong.

chsw

]]> By: Soccerdad http://www.yourish.com/2008/10/13/5451/comment-page-1#comment-33805 Soccerdad Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:07:13 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/?p=5451#comment-33805 chsw: See <a href="http://www.cfr.org/publication/10205/makovsky.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> for example. chsw:

See here for example.

]]> By: chsw http://www.yourish.com/2008/10/13/5451/comment-page-1#comment-33801 chsw Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:49:12 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/?p=5451#comment-33801 SoccerDad, please check again. I do not think that Olmert ever ran. Sharon's stroke occurred just weeks into his term, and Israel's constitution allows for four years between elections and more time in case of emergencies. I think that four years will only be up early next year. chsw SoccerDad, please check again. I do not think that Olmert ever ran. Sharon’s stroke occurred just weeks into his term, and Israel’s constitution allows for four years between elections and more time in case of emergencies.

I think that four years will only be up early next year.

chsw

]]> By: Alex Bensky http://www.yourish.com/2008/10/13/5451/comment-page-1#comment-33800 Alex Bensky Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:48:53 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/?p=5451#comment-33800 It's a parliamentary system and so the fact that the head of the government wasn't his party's leader at the last election isn't the same as it would be in ours. It happens frequently--Canada has had prime ministers like that, so has the UK. This is not to excuse Israel's overall political situation, which at least proves that to the extent groups can be said to have certain talents, it's pretty clear that among Jewish talents, practical politics isn't one of them. It’s a parliamentary system and so the fact that the head of the government wasn’t his party’s leader at the last election isn’t the same as it would be in ours. It happens frequently–Canada has had prime ministers like that, so has the UK.

This is not to excuse Israel’s overall political situation, which at least proves that to the extent groups can be said to have certain talents, it’s pretty clear that among Jewish talents, practical politics isn’t one of them.

]]> By: Soccerdad http://www.yourish.com/2008/10/13/5451/comment-page-1#comment-33793 Soccerdad Mon, 13 Oct 2008 06:40:03 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/?p=5451#comment-33793 Olmert was elected. First he filled out the remainder of Sharon's term, than he ran as head of the party. I realize that Sharon had started gearing up for the election, but Olmert ran as head of Kadima. Olmert was elected. First he filled out the remainder of Sharon’s term, than he ran as head of the party. I realize that Sharon had started gearing up for the election, but Olmert ran as head of Kadima.

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