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	<title>Comments on: Ten questions for the media pundits</title>
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		<title>By: Meryl Yourish</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2008/09/14/5339/comment-page-1#comment-33400</link>
		<dc:creator>Meryl Yourish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, Jon, I researched Palin and the J4J issue. We don&#039;t even know if she was in church when her pastor invited a J4J preacher. That is hardly something I should be condemning her for. It&#039;s not like she brought the guy in. Straw man.

Also, how is it that it&#039;s not okay to go after Michelle Obama when she stumps for her husband, but it&#039;s okay to go after Palin&#039;s pregnant teenaged daughter because of some arcane rule you and your buddies on the left made up?

Please. Michelle Obama can&#039;t be touched even though she&#039;s leading rallies for her husband, but it&#039;s open season on a 17-year-old girl because her mother says she&#039;s a mom? Your logic is so twisted I&#039;m getting dizzy trying to follow it.

You also seem to have completely blown past the issue of the press INVESTIGATING Palin and about to release the fact that her daughter was pregnant. That&#039;s why the press release was issued. Palin was forced into it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, Jon, I researched Palin and the J4J issue. We don&#8217;t even know if she was in church when her pastor invited a J4J preacher. That is hardly something I should be condemning her for. It&#8217;s not like she brought the guy in. Straw man.</p>
<p>Also, how is it that it&#8217;s not okay to go after Michelle Obama when she stumps for her husband, but it&#8217;s okay to go after Palin&#8217;s pregnant teenaged daughter because of some arcane rule you and your buddies on the left made up?</p>
<p>Please. Michelle Obama can&#8217;t be touched even though she&#8217;s leading rallies for her husband, but it&#8217;s open season on a 17-year-old girl because her mother says she&#8217;s a mom? Your logic is so twisted I&#8217;m getting dizzy trying to follow it.</p>
<p>You also seem to have completely blown past the issue of the press INVESTIGATING Palin and about to release the fact that her daughter was pregnant. That&#8217;s why the press release was issued. Palin was forced into it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Ihle</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2008/09/14/5339/comment-page-1#comment-33392</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Ihle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 11:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think when you list &#039;hockey mom&#039; as one of your key qualifications for VP, you have put your family at the center of political and media attention. You don&#039;t get to complain when someone wants to find out more about what kind of a mom you are.

J4J: http://blogs.jta.org/politics/2008/09/02/1226/sarah-palins-looming-pastor-problem/

I agree with you on the racism thing and also think it is worth pointing out when criticism of Obama depends on racist tropes. Same goes for Palin and sexism. To be fair to both, neither has really played the victim card the way others might (Jesse Jackson, Hillary Clinton).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think when you list &#8216;hockey mom&#8217; as one of your key qualifications for VP, you have put your family at the center of political and media attention. You don&#8217;t get to complain when someone wants to find out more about what kind of a mom you are.</p>
<p>J4J: <a href="http://blogs.jta.org/politics/2008/09/02/1226/sarah-palins-looming-pastor-problem/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.jta.org/politics/2008/09/02/1226/sarah-palins-looming-pastor-problem/</a></p>
<p>I agree with you on the racism thing and also think it is worth pointing out when criticism of Obama depends on racist tropes. Same goes for Palin and sexism. To be fair to both, neither has really played the victim card the way others might (Jesse Jackson, Hillary Clinton).</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2008/09/14/5339/comment-page-1#comment-33388</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 05:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d say a majority of people voting for Obama because he is black are voting for him because he is black and they agree with him on the issues.  There is a difference.  Many of these voters would probably not vote for Condoleeza Rice or J.C. Watts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say a majority of people voting for Obama because he is black are voting for him because he is black and they agree with him on the issues.  There is a difference.  Many of these voters would probably not vote for Condoleeza Rice or J.C. Watts.</p>
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		<title>By: Meryl Yourish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meryl Yourish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 03:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, the reason the Palins issued a press release is because the media was going to go ahead with the story. Apparently, family is &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; off-limits, except when it comes to Obama.

As for Palin and Jews for Jesus, I have not heard of that connection. Cite, please.

I&#039;m not dismissing all racism here. But I don&#039;t believe that if Obama is not elected, it&#039;s because Americans are bigots. Some Americans are bigots. But I really don&#039;t think we&#039;re a nation of David Dukes, which is how some on the other side are making out non-Obama voters.

Of course racism is playing a part in this election. Some people are voting for Obama BECAUSE he&#039;s black. Some people are telling us we SHOULD vote for him because he&#039;s black. How is that not racist? Of course, it&#039;s considered the &quot;good&quot; kind of racism.

Four years ago, I thought that America was not yet ready for a black president. Now, I think she is. But not this one. And not because he&#039;s black. Because he&#039;s green.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, the reason the Palins issued a press release is because the media was going to go ahead with the story. Apparently, family is <em>not</em> off-limits, except when it comes to Obama.</p>
<p>As for Palin and Jews for Jesus, I have not heard of that connection. Cite, please.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not dismissing all racism here. But I don&#8217;t believe that if Obama is not elected, it&#8217;s because Americans are bigots. Some Americans are bigots. But I really don&#8217;t think we&#8217;re a nation of David Dukes, which is how some on the other side are making out non-Obama voters.</p>
<p>Of course racism is playing a part in this election. Some people are voting for Obama BECAUSE he&#8217;s black. Some people are telling us we SHOULD vote for him because he&#8217;s black. How is that not racist? Of course, it&#8217;s considered the &#8220;good&#8221; kind of racism.</p>
<p>Four years ago, I thought that America was not yet ready for a black president. Now, I think she is. But not this one. And not because he&#8217;s black. Because he&#8217;s green.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Ihle</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2008/09/14/5339/comment-page-1#comment-33383</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Ihle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a reporter. Here are my answers:

1. I&#039;ve never even seen a moose. Have you, Meryl?

2. The Bush Doctrine permits the US to use military means to quell emerging - rather than imminent - threats to national security. It was enunciated over time, starting with the &#039;axis of evil&#039; speech and coming into force with the invasion of Iraq. I believe Charles Krauthammer gave it a name, but he did not bring it into existence.

3. I was 14 when I got my first passport and used it to visit four countries (not including Canada and none of which I could see from my home state) before I left high school. I even live abroad now (again, not in Canada).

4. I go to shul maybe a half-dozen times a year.

5. I reject the premise of your question. If my teenaged daughter got pregnant, I would not issue a press release about it. If I did issue a press release about it, I certainly wouldn&#039;t bitch when reporters followed it up. Following up press releases is part of a reporter&#039;s job. If I held the same political positions regarding sex and abortion as Sarah Palin, I might see in my teenaged daughter&#039;s pregnancy a reason to re-evaluate my thinking. I guess that&#039;s another way I&#039;m not like her.

6. This is a good question. If you believe gender is a social construct built on certain irreducible biological facts which must nevertheless be overcome in order to achieve genuine liberation, then the answer is yes. If you define feminism as being atleast as much of an asshole as the next smug Republican male, then no.

7. No.

8. Clinton, Clinton, Nader, Bush.

9. No

10. False

11. False.

How&#039;d I do? 

I&#039;d like to ask a question now: are you at all concerned, Meryl, with Palin&#039;s Jews for Jesus dalliance? I seem to recall you&#039;ve promulgated some rather astringent opinions on the subject of deceptively proselytizing Jews.

I also find it interesting that someone as perceptive as you are about anti-Semitism is so dismissive of the possibility that racism is at play in this election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a reporter. Here are my answers:</p>
<p>1. I&#8217;ve never even seen a moose. Have you, Meryl?</p>
<p>2. The Bush Doctrine permits the US to use military means to quell emerging &#8211; rather than imminent &#8211; threats to national security. It was enunciated over time, starting with the &#8216;axis of evil&#8217; speech and coming into force with the invasion of Iraq. I believe Charles Krauthammer gave it a name, but he did not bring it into existence.</p>
<p>3. I was 14 when I got my first passport and used it to visit four countries (not including Canada and none of which I could see from my home state) before I left high school. I even live abroad now (again, not in Canada).</p>
<p>4. I go to shul maybe a half-dozen times a year.</p>
<p>5. I reject the premise of your question. If my teenaged daughter got pregnant, I would not issue a press release about it. If I did issue a press release about it, I certainly wouldn&#8217;t bitch when reporters followed it up. Following up press releases is part of a reporter&#8217;s job. If I held the same political positions regarding sex and abortion as Sarah Palin, I might see in my teenaged daughter&#8217;s pregnancy a reason to re-evaluate my thinking. I guess that&#8217;s another way I&#8217;m not like her.</p>
<p>6. This is a good question. If you believe gender is a social construct built on certain irreducible biological facts which must nevertheless be overcome in order to achieve genuine liberation, then the answer is yes. If you define feminism as being atleast as much of an asshole as the next smug Republican male, then no.</p>
<p>7. No.</p>
<p>8. Clinton, Clinton, Nader, Bush.</p>
<p>9. No</p>
<p>10. False</p>
<p>11. False.</p>
<p>How&#8217;d I do? </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to ask a question now: are you at all concerned, Meryl, with Palin&#8217;s Jews for Jesus dalliance? I seem to recall you&#8217;ve promulgated some rather astringent opinions on the subject of deceptively proselytizing Jews.</p>
<p>I also find it interesting that someone as perceptive as you are about anti-Semitism is so dismissive of the possibility that racism is at play in this election.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebekah K</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2008/09/14/5339/comment-page-1#comment-33370</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebekah K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have another question (and follow-up)for the journos:  Precisely how many of our United States have you visited for any length of time;  how many of those did you see by choice, and not as a part of your job?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have another question (and follow-up)for the journos:  Precisely how many of our United States have you visited for any length of time;  how many of those did you see by choice, and not as a part of your job?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2008/09/14/5339/comment-page-1#comment-33369</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 03:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the flip side of #6, do all pro-choice woman have to be feminists?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the flip side of #6, do all pro-choice woman have to be feminists?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2008/09/14/5339/comment-page-1#comment-33368</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 03:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Igv:

I don&#039;t know where you are going with that but according to all the pro-choice woman I know, including my wife, the answer would have been yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Igv:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know where you are going with that but according to all the pro-choice woman I know, including my wife, the answer would have been yes.</p>
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		<title>By: oMan</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2008/09/14/5339/comment-page-1#comment-33365</link>
		<dc:creator>oMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grew up in the Yukon.  Walking to school at 70 below, and knowing the value of a freezer full of moose, and aware that if you head off into the bush you may not see another soul for 3000 miles, is just...different.  The media don&#039;t get that.  And so they fear and mock the set of mind, and the skills and tools, that make such places not merely manageable, but marvelous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up in the Yukon.  Walking to school at 70 below, and knowing the value of a freezer full of moose, and aware that if you head off into the bush you may not see another soul for 3000 miles, is just&#8230;different.  The media don&#8217;t get that.  And so they fear and mock the set of mind, and the skills and tools, that make such places not merely manageable, but marvelous.</p>
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		<title>By: Moptop</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2008/09/14/5339/comment-page-1#comment-33360</link>
		<dc:creator>Moptop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 18:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She is certainly getting into their heads.

&lt;i&gt;Clinton is said by friends to be “gutted” that she put 18m cracks in the glass ceiling for women only to have Palin kick in the pane. But she is thought to share Palin’s conviction that the media are treating the Alaskan governor unfairly.&lt;/i&gt;


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4749000.ece

Actually, looking for this quote, the first reference I found to Hillary and &quot;gutted&quot; was Monica describing how she felt &quot;gutted&quot; when Bill admitted the sexual harrassment on national TV and never appologized to her. Kind of a funny  term, and telling maybe of sympathy for Monica, in a way. I don&#039;t know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She is certainly getting into their heads.</p>
<p><i>Clinton is said by friends to be “gutted” that she put 18m cracks in the glass ceiling for women only to have Palin kick in the pane. But she is thought to share Palin’s conviction that the media are treating the Alaskan governor unfairly.</i></p>
<p><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4749000.ece" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4749000.ece</a></p>
<p>Actually, looking for this quote, the first reference I found to Hillary and &#8220;gutted&#8221; was Monica describing how she felt &#8220;gutted&#8221; when Bill admitted the sexual harrassment on national TV and never appologized to her. Kind of a funny  term, and telling maybe of sympathy for Monica, in a way. I don&#8217;t know.</p>
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