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		<title>By: saus</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 20:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shipman talks of sources being Iranian experts..

These Iranian experts are well known Iranian academics in the USA, they have been responsible for much of the disinformation swirling around, are aligned in prominent American left leaning &#039;think tanks&#039; promoting putting &#039;the military option in the drawer&#039;, were equally responsible for about 48 hours of madness starting friday with leaks &amp; reports that a &quot;significant change in Iranian approach to negotiations had taken place&quot;. Implying that Iran was prepared to halt enrichment, that turned out to be total spin, baseless actually but they already knew that, they seeded it in the press regardless because it has an effect in blaring headlines, they are also the same crew who have set this notion up of incomplete intelligence, wrapping it in a fact that has been obvious for years now - That an attack will not completely destroy the Iranian program, only damage it very badly and delay it for a number of years, something Israel practically acknowledges openly.. This gives their spin weight. 

After the initial spin-lie re enrichment halting was revealed for what it is, bullcrap, they chase it with a planted story to delegitimize the American military / Israeli option to counter the headlines of Iran&#039;s rejection of their negotiation surrender approach, which was itself their own spin.

It is all spin, spin spin by a group vehemently opposed to any military action (&#039;Realists&#039;), vehemently endorsing Obama and what they are praying is a massive switch in US policy to Iran. I know this because I read their writings, it is always the same cadre and the articles are always pointing to these &quot;Iranian Experts&quot; who consult with the pentagon, or the CIA etc etc.

It&#039;s bullshit wrapped up as spin to further an agenda. We already know that a total annihilation of Iran&#039;s program is impossible, they take a nugget, fill it with cheese and try to pawn it off as news, they then take the same news articles resulting from their cheese filled leaked nugget, and use them as basis for their further arguments, it&#039;s a self-perpetuating story, and one of the oldest tricks in the book.

For these experts there simply is no military option, so they endeavor to promote that any way they can. Sometimes they mistakenly drop too much that points right back to them.

The most damning part, a lot of the so called &#039;info&#039; they spinnoff is based on state released press in IRAN, which is translated by these Iranian experts from farsi.. and presented as basis. That is precisely how the &#039;iran is halting enrichment&#039; story floated, and precisely where this &#039;captured spy ring&#039; came from..

Does anyone in their right mind think for instance that the Pentagon would leak they had lost their entire human intel option in Iran in 2003!? That is right out of Iranian press, fed by these pacifist experts. This Hersh is one of the poster boys for spreading the bull, and this cadre are some of the main sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shipman talks of sources being Iranian experts..</p>
<p>These Iranian experts are well known Iranian academics in the USA, they have been responsible for much of the disinformation swirling around, are aligned in prominent American left leaning &#8216;think tanks&#8217; promoting putting &#8216;the military option in the drawer&#8217;, were equally responsible for about 48 hours of madness starting friday with leaks &amp; reports that a &#8220;significant change in Iranian approach to negotiations had taken place&#8221;. Implying that Iran was prepared to halt enrichment, that turned out to be total spin, baseless actually but they already knew that, they seeded it in the press regardless because it has an effect in blaring headlines, they are also the same crew who have set this notion up of incomplete intelligence, wrapping it in a fact that has been obvious for years now &#8211; That an attack will not completely destroy the Iranian program, only damage it very badly and delay it for a number of years, something Israel practically acknowledges openly.. This gives their spin weight. </p>
<p>After the initial spin-lie re enrichment halting was revealed for what it is, bullcrap, they chase it with a planted story to delegitimize the American military / Israeli option to counter the headlines of Iran&#8217;s rejection of their negotiation surrender approach, which was itself their own spin.</p>
<p>It is all spin, spin spin by a group vehemently opposed to any military action (&#8217;Realists&#8217;), vehemently endorsing Obama and what they are praying is a massive switch in US policy to Iran. I know this because I read their writings, it is always the same cadre and the articles are always pointing to these &#8220;Iranian Experts&#8221; who consult with the pentagon, or the CIA etc etc.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s bullshit wrapped up as spin to further an agenda. We already know that a total annihilation of Iran&#8217;s program is impossible, they take a nugget, fill it with cheese and try to pawn it off as news, they then take the same news articles resulting from their cheese filled leaked nugget, and use them as basis for their further arguments, it&#8217;s a self-perpetuating story, and one of the oldest tricks in the book.</p>
<p>For these experts there simply is no military option, so they endeavor to promote that any way they can. Sometimes they mistakenly drop too much that points right back to them.</p>
<p>The most damning part, a lot of the so called &#8216;info&#8217; they spinnoff is based on state released press in IRAN, which is translated by these Iranian experts from farsi.. and presented as basis. That is precisely how the &#8216;iran is halting enrichment&#8217; story floated, and precisely where this &#8216;captured spy ring&#8217; came from..</p>
<p>Does anyone in their right mind think for instance that the Pentagon would leak they had lost their entire human intel option in Iran in 2003!? That is right out of Iranian press, fed by these pacifist experts. This Hersh is one of the poster boys for spreading the bull, and this cadre are some of the main sources.</p>
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		<title>By: corwin</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 15:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree Meryl.It&#039;s a &quot;Fool me once&quot;,principle.I&#039;ve read the Iranians have dispersed and hardened their sites.I think too many Americans are using the thought of israeli strikes as an opportunity to avoid hard decisions.And If Iran does get nukes,the game is over.They control Mideast oil and then the world is destabilized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Meryl.It&#8217;s a &#8220;Fool me once&#8221;,principle.I&#8217;ve read the Iranians have dispersed and hardened their sites.I think too many Americans are using the thought of israeli strikes as an opportunity to avoid hard decisions.And If Iran does get nukes,the game is over.They control Mideast oil and then the world is destabilized.</p>
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