Comments on: Behind the “civilian” casualties

By: Meryl Yourish

Meryl Yourish — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:00:22 +0000

Oh, I already saw that, JB. A post is in the work. This is my favorite part:

The Israeli army never intentionally kills anyone, let alone murders them â€“ a state of affairs any other armed organisation would be envious of. Even when a one-ton bomb is dropped onto a dense residential area in Gaza, killing one gunman and 14 innocent civilians, including nine children, itâ€™s still not an intentional killing or murder: it is a targeted assassination. An Israeli journalist can say that IDF soldiers hit Palestinians, or killed them, or killed them by mistake, and that Palestinians were hit, or were killed or even found their death (as if they were looking for it), but murder is out of the question. The consequence, whatever words are used, has been the death at the hands of the Israeli security forces since the outbreak of the second intifada of 2087 Palestinians who had nothing to do with armed struggle.

And he can’t figure out why Ma’ariv wouldn’t hire him. Gee. I can’t, either. Calling soldiers murderers? Hm. I really don’t understand why Ma’arive could possibly think this guy would be biased towards the Palestinians.

By: JB

JB — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:10:01 +0000

Perhaps YOU should read a bit more. Something else than Likudnik propaganda. Like this article http://www.lrb.co.uk/v30/n05/mend01_.html
for a start

By: Meryl Yourish

Meryl Yourish — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 02:32:08 +0000

JB: The wire services consistently cite “Palestinian medics” “Palestinian sources” and, best of all, Hamas and Fatah spokesmen for their body counts. They’re not independent groups. Perhaps you may also want to read the articles. You and Xystos, you have some reading up to do before you can get up to scratch here.

By: Meryl Yourish

Meryl Yourish — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 02:30:59 +0000

Say, Xysto, perhaps you should maybe put your cursor over the link that goes to the article about the dead rocket-maker and his family. It’s from the Jerusalem Post. That fact never gets into things like the wire services. That was the whole point of my post. The wire services only mention his family being killed—not that he had a rocket factory in his house, which made it a legitimate target, and the fact that his family was killed was HIS fault—not Irael’s.

See you in another two years, pal. Maybe by then you’ll get a little smarter.

By: Jon

Jon — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 02:05:33 +0000

Reuters: “Hey that guy got his head blown off and dropped his AK, civilian right?”

That is how we get “over half civilian”

Or the terrorists: “Hey Achmed, I found Muhmar, he is in about ten pieces over here, thats one dead fighter and nine civilians go tell the AP”

By: JB

JB — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:52:37 +0000

If nobody ever bothers to cite the IDF’s estimates, it may be because those figures are blatantly self serving. What, do you expect them to say “oh yeah we kill more civilians that combatants but it’s OK with us”??

Furthermore, the figures that serious media publish are from independent groups or authorities, such as ICRC or the UN. Oh sorry I forgot they are a bunch of antisemites?

By: Xysto

Xysto — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 21:11:40 +0000

I know I’ll be banned for this, and I don’t particularly care because it’s the 2nd time I’ve visited your site in about 4 years, but what’s so outrageous about a story noting that a rocket-builder and his family were killed? Isn’t journalism about the details? I don’t see any hint of bias by simply mentioning a detail.

And what does it say about you when the mere mention of some guy and his family getting killed irks you? Should there be a rule that stories can’t include any mention of Palestinian deaths? Or do you feel that only Jewish deaths deserve any mention?

So go ahead and ban me, I just wanted to raise the point and I don’t expect you to have any tolerance for someone who disagrees with you. Cheers.