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	<title>Comments on: A Hanukkah sermon</title>
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	<description>Cutting straight to the point</description>
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		<title>By: Anne Lieberman</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2007/12/11/4096/comment-page-1#comment-30103</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne Lieberman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t want to say too much, since if I fell down dead tomorrow (Gd forbid), Rabbi Urecki would be writing my eulogy. But Elie&#039;s right, and it&#039;s been brought to my attention by others, that Jews got to Poland about 500 years before the potato.  Who&#039;s to say who made the first latke (or why) when the potato finally did appear? It might have been a Polish Christian mama, but it could just as easily have been a Jewish one.
And aside from the fact that we can&#039;t really know, as I&#039;m sitting here surrounded by Christmas cheer  - in a world turning against the people and the place that gave them Jesus - I just don&#039;t see the point in telling Jews that the originis of our dreidels and latkes may not have been specifically Jewish.
Hey, I wasn&#039;t born Jewish either, but as a convert, both these rabbis are obligated to, would, and do, treat me exactly the same as if I had been. And who am I, compared to a golden steaming latke, just the smell of which can open the gates of heaven?
The importance of Jesus is not his Jewish birth, but the way in which his life has served as a beacon for the Christian faithful. It make seem disrespectful to make such an analogy - I certainly don&#039;t mean it to be - but what&#039;s important about latkes and dreidels is not who made the first one, but the light and warmth they continue to bring to Jewish homes in times of darkness and bitter cold. For me, eating latkes and playing dreidel will never be acts of acculturation, but rather celebration. And very specifically, Jewish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want to say too much, since if I fell down dead tomorrow (Gd forbid), Rabbi Urecki would be writing my eulogy. But Elie&#8217;s right, and it&#8217;s been brought to my attention by others, that Jews got to Poland about 500 years before the potato.  Who&#8217;s to say who made the first latke (or why) when the potato finally did appear? It might have been a Polish Christian mama, but it could just as easily have been a Jewish one.</p>
<p>And aside from the fact that we can&#8217;t really know, as I&#8217;m sitting here surrounded by Christmas cheer  &#8211; in a world turning against the people and the place that gave them Jesus &#8211; I just don&#8217;t see the point in telling Jews that the originis of our dreidels and latkes may not have been specifically Jewish.</p>
<p>Hey, I wasn&#8217;t born Jewish either, but as a convert, both these rabbis are obligated to, would, and do, treat me exactly the same as if I had been. And who am I, compared to a golden steaming latke, just the smell of which can open the gates of heaven? </p>
<p>The importance of Jesus is not his Jewish birth, but the way in which his life has served as a beacon for the Christian faithful. It make seem disrespectful to make such an analogy &#8211; I certainly don&#8217;t mean it to be &#8211; but what&#8217;s important about latkes and dreidels is not who made the first one, but the light and warmth they continue to bring to Jewish homes in times of darkness and bitter cold. For me, eating latkes and playing dreidel will never be acts of acculturation, but rather celebration. And very specifically, Jewish.</p>
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		<title>By: Elie</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2007/12/11/4096/comment-page-1#comment-30089</link>
		<dc:creator>Elie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And of course latkes or *anything* made from potatos can&#039;t have much of an ancient Jewish pedigree, given that they are a New World crop!
On a related note, every Pesach my dad Z&#039;L would remark how lucky we are that chazal didn&#039;t have potatos when they instituted the ban on kitniyos, or potatos would certainly have been included, since you can make far better fake-wheat products from potatos than from peas and beans!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And of course latkes or *anything* made from potatos can&#8217;t have much of an ancient Jewish pedigree, given that they are a New World crop!</p>
<p>On a related note, every Pesach my dad Z&#8217;L would remark how lucky we are that chazal didn&#8217;t have potatos when they instituted the ban on kitniyos, or potatos would certainly have been included, since you can make far better fake-wheat products from potatos than from peas and beans!</p>
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		<title>By: psychotoddler</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2007/12/11/4096/comment-page-1#comment-30088</link>
		<dc:creator>psychotoddler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent article.  I agree wholeheartedly with it (and not just because Rabbi Urecki is my cousin).
I&#039;ve gotten grief for over 20 years over the kind of Jewish Music I play, because it sounds treif or goyish.  This usually comes from people who idealize a certain style of Jewish Music that has its origins in the same Eastern European pubs that people went to to get sauced up for a good pogrom.
We&#039;re Americans, and we have American Jewish music now.  Deal with it.
Happy Channuka, Meryl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article.  I agree wholeheartedly with it (and not just because Rabbi Urecki is my cousin).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve gotten grief for over 20 years over the kind of Jewish Music I play, because it sounds treif or goyish.  This usually comes from people who idealize a certain style of Jewish Music that has its origins in the same Eastern European pubs that people went to to get sauced up for a good pogrom.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re Americans, and we have American Jewish music now.  Deal with it.</p>
<p>Happy Channuka, Meryl.</p>
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		<title>By: soccer dad</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2007/12/11/4096/comment-page-1#comment-30086</link>
		<dc:creator>soccer dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meryl,
Do you know Vic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meryl,<br />
Do you know Vic?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Katz</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2007/12/11/4096/comment-page-1#comment-30084</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article Meryl.. thanks for posting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article Meryl.. thanks for posting.</p>
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		<title>By: Meryl Yourish</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2007/12/11/4096/comment-page-1#comment-30082</link>
		<dc:creator>Meryl Yourish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seagacs, you should hear him talk. That wasn&#039;t an overuse of italics. It&#039;s just his way.
He used to have a radio show in Charleston, too. Wish he had one here in Richmond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seagacs, you should hear him talk. That wasn&#8217;t an overuse of italics. It&#8217;s just his way.</p>
<p>He used to have a radio show in Charleston, too. Wish he had one here in Richmond.</p>
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		<title>By: Long_Rifle</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2007/12/11/4096/comment-page-1#comment-30080</link>
		<dc:creator>Long_Rifle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 08:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, thank you for posting this.  I never knew it wasn&#039;t an important holiday.
An interesting read, and a wonderful example of Jews constantly having to &quot;fight the man&quot;.
I wonder how much of &quot;Christmas&quot; is even Christian?  I know the tree, the yule log, the DATE, and a number of OTHER things are non-Christian....
Now you&#039;re going to have to start posting more on the actual Hebrew language, as all I know about it is what I heard from my Jewish Dive Master (Marshal Shaeffer, the motor city mashugina){spelling} and the band &quot;2 live Jews.&quot;
And yes, that WAS a real group...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, thank you for posting this.  I never knew it wasn&#8217;t an important holiday.  </p>
<p>An interesting read, and a wonderful example of Jews constantly having to &#8220;fight the man&#8221;.</p>
<p>I wonder how much of &#8220;Christmas&#8221; is even Christian?  I know the tree, the yule log, the DATE, and a number of OTHER things are non-Christian&#8230;.</p>
<p>Now you&#8217;re going to have to start posting more on the actual Hebrew language, as all I know about it is what I heard from my Jewish Dive Master (Marshal Shaeffer, the motor city mashugina){spelling} and the band &#8220;2 live Jews.&#8221;</p>
<p>And yes, that WAS a real group&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: segacs</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2007/12/11/4096/comment-page-1#comment-30078</link>
		<dc:creator>segacs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 04:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though there is some interesting fodder for debate here, I still think the rabbi who composed the sermon (or perhaps the person who transcribed it) deserves two minutes in the penalty box for overuse of italics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though there is some interesting fodder for debate here, I still think the rabbi who composed the sermon (or perhaps the person who transcribed it) deserves two minutes in the penalty box for overuse of italics.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry G</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2007/12/11/4096/comment-page-1#comment-30075</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting.  Thanks for posting this Meryl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting.  Thanks for posting this Meryl.</p>
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