Comments on: The changing Road Map narrative

By: David M

David M — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:30:14 +0000

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By: John M

John M — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:08:25 +0000

Ted, you’re thinking about this the wrong way. The primary leverage that Israel has over the world community is not “Israeli genius helping … national interests”, although this should not be dismissed. Her primary leverage is, in all candor, the wrath of God. As the only divinely-ordained nation on earth, Israel can (and does) depend on his protection. “I will bless them that bless you and curse them that curse you”. I support Israel partly because I admire the Jews as a people, but mostly because God says it’s the right thing to do.

By: Sabba Hillel

Sabba Hillel — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 10:37:07 +0000

Ed:

That comment of yours is why Arabs are applying for Israeli citizenship in unprecedented numbers. They regard being forced to actually live under the PA as a disaster.

By: Alex Bensky

Alex Bensky — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 01:17:13 +0000

Russia and/or China could decide to swing support to Israel, Ted, but only in the sense that Lucy Lawless could be about to ring my doorbell and ask if she can come upstairs and get out of these wet clothes. On the other hand, yes, the Russians killed hundreds or thousands of Muslims without much stirring from the Muslim street. For that matter, not many weeks ago the Lebanese Army killed dozens or hundreds of Palestinians and destroyed their homes and as far as I can call in the msm and the halls of the UN no one lost any sleep.

On the main point, Meryl, you’re forgetting what you insist on calling the Exception Clause but is properly called the Bensky Corollary to Everything–in this case, its application means the world demands words from the Arabs but deeds from the Jews.

By: Ted

Ted — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 00:36:36 +0000

And what happens if Israel decides that enough is enough? That the $3 Billion a year bribe they get from the United States isn’t worth endangering their existence?

Russia, China and France are no doubt salivating over the prospect of Israeli genius helping THEIR national interest instead of that of my United States.

Losing Israel would be a disaster of unprecedented scale. Which is, of course, why the America Haters of the Left will do anything they can to encourage it.

It is amazing that the Israelis have put up with so much with such little response. Imagine, if you will, how Russia would react to repeated criminal acts by one of their neighbors. Actually, you don’t have to imagine. Check out the ‘disproportionate response’ the Russians meted out against the Chechens.

By: John M

John M — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:22:18 +0000

When I was in the service, I had a course on “Foreign Internal Defense”. Basically a class on how to help allied nations fight insurgencies. One of the first principles they drilled into us was that we were not there to help the allied country for its own sake, but to advance US interests. Interests of the allied state were fine, but only insofar as they also advanced US interests. Allied interests that had no bearing on US interests were to be ignored.

Similarly, Rice’s job as SecState, is to advance the interests of the United States FIRST, without regard to the moral rightness of the issue or how it impacts other nations. The US gets maximum political benefit by pressuring Israel because we know that Israel will at least respond reasonably. Pressuring the Palestinians is futile and would make us look silly if we tried. Abbas is useless and we know it. Rice sitting down with some Hamas wacko and “urging him to stop violence” would just legitimize the guy. That avenue being closed, we do the only other thing possible to make it appear that we’re engaged – we pressure Israel.

By: Ed Hausman

Ed Hausman — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:26:23 +0000

Note:

All official Israeli institutions end incitement against Palestinians.

WHAT official Israeli incitement? That was another throw-away line tossed in for “balance”.

Remember the Road Map inauguration in Jordan — US, Jordanian, and Palestinian flags. No Israeli flag. No seat on the podium for the Israeli Foreign Minister.

Israelis aren’t nazis, but every conference seems more and more like Germany at Versailles after WW I — except the Israelis are the ones who won!

Time for the victor to claim the spoils. Ship all the non-citizen Arabs out of Eretz Yisrael.