GoStats is web stats service with accurate visitor counts. (since the entire day of traffic is considered) Doesn’t hurt to try out GoStats. :)

I really don’t think Patrick is right on the 60% inflation rate, though. Something to work on next week, perhaps.

Yes, I do know what HTTP stands for, and I was using it back at Rice in ‘94 when the only browser around was NCSA Mosaic. I was once quoted as saying there was no way this HyperText crap would ever replace Gopher.

That being said, I won’t try to win a pissing contest with you – I write client/server business software for a living and am just a hobbyist when it comes to web pages. I’m really not that good at it, and if we got into some kind of IIS or Apache trivia match, you would probably obliterate me.

I just want to make sure it gets out there for the permanent record that a lot less people read DailyKos each day than are currently advertised and there is an easy way for Kos to fix this. This is important, because his readers cite the size of Kos’s readership as a key component of their political muscle. Being politically opposed to them, I want that muscle to shrink, and outing their numbers as highly inflated is a good way to do that. Successfully painting Kos as someone knowingly keeping those numbers inflated is even better. Thus, I want to make sure HE knows his numbers are too high, so that Kos can not claim ignorance as a defense.

So that is my motivation to defend Patrick’s post. Yeah, I got snarky, but I’m having a bad day at work and figured it was safer to take it out on you than my boss.

OK, enough of this. You can have the last word and I’ll shut up for today.

Show me a programming degree from either you or Patrick, and I’ll be happy to not mention that you have no technical backgrounds to speak of, and yet, you are spouting off on technological issues as if you do. If you can even tell me what the http in a web address stands for without Googling it, I’ll admit you’re at least semi-knowledgeable about tech.

You’re on the honor system there, bud.

But the last thing–the very last thing–you want to do, is snark with me in my backyard.

And if you really don’t want anyone commenting – disable comments on your post. You know how to do that, right? Or are you lacking “a certain strategic depth to your knowledge”?

I didn’t see the email you got from Site Meter, but to me, “arrangements could be made” isn’t the same as “data is currently being collected”. I still don’t think Site Meter is saving any data at all on visitors once they drop off the top 100 list. I think the only permanent record of a visitor is that the aggregate counts are incremented (daily, monthly, annual, total, etc.). From the way you described your email from Site Meter, I think they are just saying that 4000 is not a hard limit, and they could store even more if you asked them to.

The most important point, though, is that only the visitors who did the last 100 page views are currently being tracked for users with the free account, and that is greatly inflating traffic numbers on several high volume sites. Kos in particular.

And if he were to upgrade to the premium account, where the details on 4000 visitors were tracked instead of 100, then his visitor counts would drop dramatically.