Comments on: Sderot: one more step towards ghost town http://www.yourish.com/2007/09/04/3631 Cutting straight to the point Mon, 13 Feb 2012 02:14:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Joel Rosenberg http://www.yourish.com/2007/09/04/3631/comment-page-1#comment-28262 Joel Rosenberg Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:31:04 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2007/09/04/3631#comment-28262 Snoopy, you're implicitly accepting the notion that the terrorists can be allowed to hide behind civilians with impunity for both the terrorists and the civilian population that supports them. If Gaza simply won't be other than either a launching pad or a parking lot, whose problem should that be, and why should the Palestinians be expected to do anything more than decide how to allocate the parking spaces and paint the lines? As to the notion that Israel can solve the Palestinians' problem for them by giving them <i>lebensraum</i>, I think we're well past the time (say, 1967) when that was other than a sick joke. Snoopy, you’re implicitly accepting the notion that the terrorists can be allowed to hide behind civilians with impunity for both the terrorists and the civilian population that supports them. If Gaza simply won’t be other than either a launching pad or a parking lot, whose problem should that be, and why should the Palestinians be expected to do anything more than decide how to allocate the parking spaces and paint the lines?

As to the notion that Israel can solve the Palestinians’ problem for them by giving them lebensraum, I think we’re well past the time (say, 1967) when that was other than a sick joke.

]]> By: Meryl Yourish http://www.yourish.com/2007/09/04/3631/comment-page-1#comment-28260 Meryl Yourish Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:59:28 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2007/09/04/3631#comment-28260 Lefty, Islamic Jihad is quite clear in what it wants: All of "Palestine," not just the 1949 Armistice lines. So does Hamas. Giving Palestinians what they want has only resulted in more terrorism. The jihadis are firing their rockets from areas that were former Israeli settlements. Unilateral retreat has been followed by war in every single case. It doesn't work. Only strength works. But the world rises up unanimously to stop Israel when she defends herself. Lefty, Islamic Jihad is quite clear in what it wants: All of “Palestine,” not just the 1949 Armistice lines. So does Hamas.

Giving Palestinians what they want has only resulted in more terrorism. The jihadis are firing their rockets from areas that were former Israeli settlements.

Unilateral retreat has been followed by war in every single case. It doesn’t work. Only strength works. But the world rises up unanimously to stop Israel when she defends herself.

]]> By: Lefty http://www.yourish.com/2007/09/04/3631/comment-page-1#comment-28259 Lefty Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:04:47 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2007/09/04/3631#comment-28259 I'd suggest that Israel unilaterally retreat to the '67 boundaries, which would include relinquishing East Jerusalem. (Sad, but necessary.) This would eliminate the main motivation for the attacks, for what else could the Palestinians reasonably expect to get from Israel? Any further missile attacks should be dealt with by air strikes on the lauch sites, and, if necessary, temporary military incursions to capture and destroy rockets, as in Lebanon last summer. In pure military terms, last year's war was a modest success for Israel, and should serve as a model for dealing with any harassment from post-Occupation Palestine. Also, unlike Snoopy, I have no problem with Israel cutting off any electrical power or water that flows into Gaza from Israel. I don't relish punishing the civilian population of Gaza but it's pointless for Israel to treat Gaza as anything but a hostile state. I’d suggest that Israel unilaterally retreat to the ’67 boundaries, which would include relinquishing East Jerusalem. (Sad, but necessary.) This would eliminate the main motivation for the attacks, for what else could the Palestinians reasonably expect to get from Israel? Any further missile attacks should be dealt with by air strikes on the lauch sites, and, if necessary, temporary military incursions to capture and destroy rockets, as in Lebanon last summer. In pure military terms, last year’s war was a modest success for Israel, and should serve as a model for dealing with any harassment from post-Occupation Palestine.

Also, unlike Snoopy, I have no problem with Israel cutting off any electrical power or water that flows into Gaza from Israel. I don’t relish punishing the civilian population of Gaza but it’s pointless for Israel to treat Gaza as anything but a hostile state.

]]> By: SnoopyTheGoon http://www.yourish.com/2007/09/04/3631/comment-page-1#comment-28258 SnoopyTheGoon Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:07:13 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2007/09/04/3631#comment-28258 Joel, the chances of hitting the rocket scientists using Battery 6 are very low. The only people suffering will be civilians, and the terrorists will continue with their tasks. The only military way to deal with the Qassams is to go in and catch or kill (whatever comes first) the whole Jihad Islami gang. And to do this without a bloodbath is impossible. And the dreckes know and use this dilemma exceedingly well... Joel, the chances of hitting the rocket scientists using Battery 6 are very low. The only people suffering will be civilians, and the terrorists will continue with their tasks.

The only military way to deal with the Qassams is to go in and catch or kill (whatever comes first) the whole Jihad Islami gang. And to do this without a bloodbath is impossible.

And the dreckes know and use this dilemma exceedingly well…

]]> By: John M http://www.yourish.com/2007/09/04/3631/comment-page-1#comment-28253 John M Tue, 04 Sep 2007 22:46:22 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2007/09/04/3631#comment-28253 Oh, come on, you know those were not "children" in a "day care center", they were actually "Zionist Oppressors" in a "Training Camp". Sadly, I just can't see a good solution to this. I can honestly answer Joel's question with "Until Gaza is bombed into a parking lot". The citizens of Israel may have to consider themselves a permanently embattled population. Oh, come on, you know those were not “children” in a “day care center”, they were actually “Zionist Oppressors” in a “Training Camp”.

Sadly, I just can’t see a good solution to this. I can honestly answer Joel’s question with “Until Gaza is bombed into a parking lot”. The citizens of Israel may have to consider themselves a permanently embattled population.

]]> By: Jack http://www.yourish.com/2007/09/04/3631/comment-page-1#comment-28250 Jack Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:15:13 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2007/09/04/3631#comment-28250 A government that cannot protect its citizenry needs to be replaced. A government that cannot protect its citizenry needs to be replaced.

]]> By: Joel Rosenberg http://www.yourish.com/2007/09/04/3631/comment-page-1#comment-28245 Joel Rosenberg Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:11:11 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2007/09/04/3631#comment-28245 If every rocket attack on Sderot was responded to by, say, a Battery 6, how much longer do you think the rocket attacks would continue? If every rocket attack on Sderot was responded to by, say, a Battery 6, how much longer do you think the rocket attacks would continue?

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