Comments on: The official AP boilerplate: More deaths than 9/11! http://www.yourish.com/2006/12/27/2504 Cutting straight to the point Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:14:34 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Sabba Hillel http://www.yourish.com/2006/12/27/2504/comment-page-1#comment-23862 Sabba Hillel Thu, 28 Dec 2006 16:46:45 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/12/27/2504#comment-23862 Perhaps we should compare the death toll of innocent civilians in Israel to the death toll of 9/11 and state it as a percantage of the total population of Israel and the US respectively. Maybe then people will start to understand. Perhaps we should compare the death toll of innocent civilians in Israel to the death toll of 9/11 and state it as a percantage of the total population of Israel and the US respectively. Maybe then people will start to understand.

]]> By: Meryl Yourish http://www.yourish.com/2006/12/27/2504/comment-page-1#comment-23830 Meryl Yourish Wed, 27 Dec 2006 22:06:59 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/12/27/2504#comment-23830 You know, I just noticed something about that quote from AP: It doesn't make grammatical sense. They forgot the words "This brings" in front of the offending sentence. Dick, you're right about the media's negativity being relentless. But I've always been able to see through bullshit. Too bad more people don't have that talent. You know, I just noticed something about that quote from AP: It doesn’t make grammatical sense.

They forgot the words “This brings” in front of the offending sentence.

Dick, you’re right about the media’s negativity being relentless. But I’ve always been able to see through bullshit.

Too bad more people don’t have that talent.

]]> By: Dick Stanley http://www.yourish.com/2006/12/27/2504/comment-page-1#comment-23829 Dick Stanley Wed, 27 Dec 2006 21:59:22 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/12/27/2504#comment-23829 I must say I struggled with this complaint against the AP story, at first, when I saw what LGF did with it. But your comparison to Pearl Harbor and World War II casualties makes it clear. After a while the media's negative viewpoint, being relentless, come to seem normal, until someone cracks their facade. Thanks. I must say I struggled with this complaint against the AP story, at first, when I saw what LGF did with it. But your comparison to Pearl Harbor and World War II casualties makes it clear. After a while the media’s negative viewpoint, being relentless, come to seem normal, until someone cracks their facade. Thanks.

]]> By: michael http://www.yourish.com/2006/12/27/2504/comment-page-1#comment-23823 michael Wed, 27 Dec 2006 14:28:25 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/12/27/2504#comment-23823 Meryl, they're trying to make the "moral equivalencey" argument, by claiming that the administration has killed more Americans than the terrorits. It doesn't work. The Bush administration may be inept and irresponsible, but the soldiers are dying because Islamic terrorists out there want to kill all Americans, armed or not. The AP is unable to understand the simple truth, as valid in chess, debate, or football as it is in war, that sometimes the best defense is a good offense. Meryl, they’re trying to make the “moral equivalencey” argument, by claiming that the administration has killed more Americans than the terrorits.

It doesn’t work. The Bush administration may be inept and irresponsible, but the soldiers are dying because Islamic terrorists out there want to kill all Americans, armed or not.

The AP is unable to understand the simple truth, as valid in chess, debate, or football as it is in war, that sometimes the best defense is a good offense.

]]> By: Paul http://www.yourish.com/2006/12/27/2504/comment-page-1#comment-23821 Paul Wed, 27 Dec 2006 13:58:24 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/12/27/2504#comment-23821 The AP is trying to make a point-one against the Iraq War. It is an old tactic. The AP is trying to make a point-one against the Iraq War. It is an old tactic.

]]> By: Chris http://www.yourish.com/2006/12/27/2504/comment-page-1#comment-23817 Chris Wed, 27 Dec 2006 12:35:53 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/12/27/2504#comment-23817 From a military perspective, body counts are a horrible way to tabulate your success or failure, but neither is the taking of specific parcels of land, no matter how important. Both are a poor for evaluating one's stance. For instance, the bloodiest battle ever fought, Napoleon's Battle of Borodino, saw a devastating loss of humanity in one day - some estimate over 75,000 men! (Actual figures are hard to come by, complete units were literally wiped out.) Though Napoleon controlled the field and later went on to Moscow, the immense loss of life on both sides radically altered the nature of the campaign. Holding Moscow was untenable for the French, so in the end, many died in vain. Launching cowardly surprise attacks by driving fuel-laden commercial jetliners into tall buildings is hardly a great sign of victory either, serving mostly to awaken the West to the festering sores of a growing Islamofascist threat. War doesn't make much sense. It ultimately is a contest of wills between the combatants. As long as we continue to feel threatened, we need to respond. Comparing 9/11 to our casualty count should mean only one thing: all of our fallen should strongly remind us that there is an enemy out there who wants us dead no matter if we're in NYC or in Iraq. Petty political dissension needs to take a back seat to preservation until we know for certain that this threat has been eliminated. <i>There has not been any credible evidence linking Iraq to the Sept. 11 attacks.</i> That mantra only continues to serve the purposes of the terrorists. Someone is still out there killing our soldiers and it isn't the dead suicide pilots. It doesn't require much imagination to see the reporter shouting such a statement from Sadr city, Tehran or for that matter radical London. So the AP (and Reuters) continual demand for credibility after all their 2006 fauxtography and subsequent Picture Kill advisories strains the phrase "ethical journalism". At some point it's no longer just journalistic opinion, and true colors are revealed. My sincere thanks, prayers and condolences go to those in uniform and without, to their family members who suffered the loss of their loved ones, and to those serving who keep acts of evil at bay. From a military perspective, body counts are a horrible way to tabulate your success or failure, but neither is the taking of specific parcels of land, no matter how important. Both are a poor for evaluating one’s stance.

For instance, the bloodiest battle ever fought, Napoleon’s Battle of Borodino, saw a devastating loss of humanity in one day – some estimate over 75,000 men! (Actual figures are hard to come by, complete units were literally wiped out.) Though Napoleon controlled the field and later went on to Moscow, the immense loss of life on both sides radically altered the nature of the campaign. Holding Moscow was untenable for the French, so in the end, many died in vain.

Launching cowardly surprise attacks by driving fuel-laden commercial jetliners into tall buildings is hardly a great sign of victory either, serving mostly to awaken the West to the festering sores of a growing Islamofascist threat.

War doesn’t make much sense. It ultimately is a contest of wills between the combatants. As long as we continue to feel threatened, we need to respond.

Comparing 9/11 to our casualty count should mean only one thing: all of our fallen should strongly remind us that there is an enemy out there who wants us dead no matter if we’re in NYC or in Iraq. Petty political dissension needs to take a back seat to preservation until we know for certain that this threat has been eliminated.

There has not been any credible evidence linking Iraq to the Sept. 11 attacks.

That mantra only continues to serve the purposes of the terrorists. Someone is still out there killing our soldiers and it isn’t the dead suicide pilots. It doesn’t require much imagination to see the reporter shouting such a statement from Sadr city, Tehran or for that matter radical London. So the AP (and Reuters) continual demand for credibility after all their 2006 fauxtography and subsequent Picture Kill advisories strains the phrase “ethical journalism”.

At some point it’s no longer just journalistic opinion, and true colors are revealed.

My sincere thanks, prayers and condolences go to those in uniform and without, to their family members who suffered the loss of their loved ones, and to those serving who keep acts of evil at bay.

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