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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/11/27/2355/comment-page-1#comment-23285</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 00:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I do not want to be associated with any terrorists, I will post anonymously and admit that if Dean or whoever says so,  I must be a terrible person, for saying the following:

I went to the Kahane website, or a mirror IIRC, and whatever I read did not smack of terrorism.  I agreed with most of what I read, and what I disagreed with, or did not like, seemed to reflect more on me than on his views.

Who can deny that a person is either a Jew or not a Jew?  And according to the laws, it is based on matrilinearity unless you hold to Reform Judaism.  Me:  my father is Jewish, my mother is Catholic, so officially, AFAIK, I am nothing.  

I was circumcised, I have a Hebrew name, I was a Bar Mitzvah, I try to live by the  Torah and even the Talmud  at least insofar as my means allow.  But my mother never converted and I never converted, so what am I?  Conflicted ;&gt;  And Kahane spoke to that.  

Is Dean Jewish?  This is not an ad hominem, it is merely to say that he cannot possibly appreciate the resonance of such texts of his as the one on &quot;Bridget loves Bernie.&quot;  

I don&#039;t know what is terroristic about Kahane.  Maybe I haven&#039;t read enough.  Is transfer terroristic?  I think it would be a good idea, especially in terms of his proposal for buyouts.  I don&#039;t think stabbing gays is a good idea, but I don&#039;t think homosexuality is a good idea either (male homosexuality that is, ha ha ;&gt;).  

My cousin is a cantor.  I should say, she is a Reform cantor.  That is, not according to the Orthodox!  I should be indignant, right?  Well, I&#039;m not.  I&#039;m disquieted.  Of course I wish her all the best and that she serve Judaism as best she can, and I&#039;m sure she will go on to do great things.  But in fact women are not supposed to be clerics.  (Yes, I already said I&#039;m terrible.)

What did he say that is so wrong?  &quot;Give me that good old time religion?&quot;  I am a Jew according to the Reform denomination, and I consider myself in my heart a Jew, but then again so does Michael Richards.  I&#039;m Jewish enough for Torquemada or Hitler, but maybe not enough for me.  I often think about taking steps but, being a product of assimilated American society, the Chabad people with the funny hats weird me out. 

I really don&#039;t know what to do with myself, but again to be awful, I would say to Dean, that it seems to me:  

It&#039;s a Jewish thing.  You wouldn&#039;t understand.

To which I suppose he would say:  You mean, &quot;Hitler had a point?&quot;  To which I would reply:  No, but Hitler loved dogs and was a vegetarian and a nonsmoker.  Not all of those things are necessarily bad (even if I am not a veg or a nonsmoker).  

If he wanted to blow up women and children in an effort to take over the world, I am against that.  But as I say, I am for just about everything about him I have read.  The fact that I adore shrimp and lobster and all kinds of treif does not mean that I am right.  

Wasn&#039;t it Primo Levo who said: 

&#039;Jew is somebody who at Christmas does not have a tree, who should not eat salami but eats it all the same, who has learned a bit of Hebrew at 13 and then has forgotten it.&#039;

Levi was Jew enough for Hitler.  

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I do not want to be associated with any terrorists, I will post anonymously and admit that if Dean or whoever says so,  I must be a terrible person, for saying the following:</p>
<p>I went to the Kahane website, or a mirror IIRC, and whatever I read did not smack of terrorism.  I agreed with most of what I read, and what I disagreed with, or did not like, seemed to reflect more on me than on his views.</p>
<p>Who can deny that a person is either a Jew or not a Jew?  And according to the laws, it is based on matrilinearity unless you hold to Reform Judaism.  Me:  my father is Jewish, my mother is Catholic, so officially, AFAIK, I am nothing.  </p>
<p>I was circumcised, I have a Hebrew name, I was a Bar Mitzvah, I try to live by the  Torah and even the Talmud  at least insofar as my means allow.  But my mother never converted and I never converted, so what am I?  Conflicted ;&gt;  And Kahane spoke to that.  </p>
<p>Is Dean Jewish?  This is not an ad hominem, it is merely to say that he cannot possibly appreciate the resonance of such texts of his as the one on &#8220;Bridget loves Bernie.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what is terroristic about Kahane.  Maybe I haven&#8217;t read enough.  Is transfer terroristic?  I think it would be a good idea, especially in terms of his proposal for buyouts.  I don&#8217;t think stabbing gays is a good idea, but I don&#8217;t think homosexuality is a good idea either (male homosexuality that is, ha ha ;&gt;).  </p>
<p>My cousin is a cantor.  I should say, she is a Reform cantor.  That is, not according to the Orthodox!  I should be indignant, right?  Well, I&#8217;m not.  I&#8217;m disquieted.  Of course I wish her all the best and that she serve Judaism as best she can, and I&#8217;m sure she will go on to do great things.  But in fact women are not supposed to be clerics.  (Yes, I already said I&#8217;m terrible.)</p>
<p>What did he say that is so wrong?  &#8220;Give me that good old time religion?&#8221;  I am a Jew according to the Reform denomination, and I consider myself in my heart a Jew, but then again so does Michael Richards.  I&#8217;m Jewish enough for Torquemada or Hitler, but maybe not enough for me.  I often think about taking steps but, being a product of assimilated American society, the Chabad people with the funny hats weird me out. </p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t know what to do with myself, but again to be awful, I would say to Dean, that it seems to me:  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a Jewish thing.  You wouldn&#8217;t understand.</p>
<p>To which I suppose he would say:  You mean, &#8220;Hitler had a point?&#8221;  To which I would reply:  No, but Hitler loved dogs and was a vegetarian and a nonsmoker.  Not all of those things are necessarily bad (even if I am not a veg or a nonsmoker).  </p>
<p>If he wanted to blow up women and children in an effort to take over the world, I am against that.  But as I say, I am for just about everything about him I have read.  The fact that I adore shrimp and lobster and all kinds of treif does not mean that I am right.  </p>
<p>Wasn&#8217;t it Primo Levo who said: </p>
<p>&#8216;Jew is somebody who at Christmas does not have a tree, who should not eat salami but eats it all the same, who has learned a bit of Hebrew at 13 and then has forgotten it.&#8217;</p>
<p>Levi was Jew enough for Hitler.  </p>
<p>Meanwhile, if one terrorist kills another terrorist, why indeed does Esmay care?</p>
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		<title>By: DW Lurker</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/11/27/2355/comment-page-1#comment-23264</link>
		<dc:creator>DW Lurker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 06:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s been quiet when Robert Spencer had demolished his and &#039;Makato-Chan&#039;s&#039; bizarre and mistaken interpretations of the Q&#039;uran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s been quiet when Robert Spencer had demolished his and &#8216;Makato-Chan&#8217;s&#8217; bizarre and mistaken interpretations of the Q&#8217;uran.</p>
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		<title>By: DW Lurker</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/11/27/2355/comment-page-1#comment-23263</link>
		<dc:creator>DW Lurker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 05:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh. Dean didn&#039;t notice those comments or was too busy to respond. See if you can find one comment critical of Islam to which he hasn&#039;t responded. Or one post by Ali, Aziz without an &#039;attaboy!&#039; from Mr. Esmay.

Posts about African-Americans are guaranteed to get a response from him, usually beginning with a tortured, white-guilt disclaimer about how he&#039;s not black, but &quot;some of his best friends are&quot; and they&#039;ve told him how &quot;tuned in&quot; he is to black culture.

These he finds time for. And to spit on people (including veterans) who don&#039;t agree with his view of &quot;moderate&quot; Muslims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh. Dean didn&#8217;t notice those comments or was too busy to respond. See if you can find one comment critical of Islam to which he hasn&#8217;t responded. Or one post by Ali, Aziz without an &#8216;attaboy!&#8217; from Mr. Esmay.</p>
<p>Posts about African-Americans are guaranteed to get a response from him, usually beginning with a tortured, white-guilt disclaimer about how he&#8217;s not black, but &#8220;some of his best friends are&#8221; and they&#8217;ve told him how &#8220;tuned in&#8221; he is to black culture.</p>
<p>These he finds time for. And to spit on people (including veterans) who don&#8217;t agree with his view of &#8220;moderate&#8221; Muslims.</p>
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		<title>By: Meryl Yourish</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/11/27/2355/comment-page-1#comment-23224</link>
		<dc:creator>Meryl Yourish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 17:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beth, you simply don&#039;t understand the thing between Dean and me.

He doesn&#039;t really give a damn about Kahane. He found something to bash me with, and so, he bashed.

Trust me. He does this every so often. Most of the time, I ignore him. This time, I didn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beth, you simply don&#8217;t understand the thing between Dean and me.</p>
<p>He doesn&#8217;t really give a damn about Kahane. He found something to bash me with, and so, he bashed.</p>
<p>Trust me. He does this every so often. Most of the time, I ignore him. This time, I didn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/11/27/2355/comment-page-1#comment-23222</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Veeshir, you forgot &quot;You traitors. [SPIT]&quot;  ;-)

So Meryl, does this mean you&#039;re now a traitor too?  AND a terror sympathizer?  
WTF!!

I guess that means because Dean criticizes Christianity, he&#039;s a traitor too, considering &gt;80% of Americans are Christians.  I think I&#039;d rather be a &quot;traitor&quot; for &quot;slandering&quot; (LOL) less than 1% of Americans.  Or at least &quot;slandering&quot; &lt;strong&gt;the religion&lt;/strong&gt; chosen by less than 1% of Americans, anyway.  (But it&#039;s &lt;em&gt;different&lt;/em&gt; for him, right?)

And WTF is with this hangup on Kahane he&#039;s got?  It&#039;s not like there are a billion Kahanists on the planet wanting the rest of the world to convert to Orthodox Judaism.  I know (and OMG, like!) a self-identified Kahanist, if you will, and she couldn&#039;t care less what religion I or anyone else belongs to. (And even if there were, it&#039;s not like it&#039;d be converting to what I see as an oppressive religion.)

What the hell is he trying to prove, anyway?  Does he think he&#039;s going to convince teh internets that Islam is a Religion of Peace, based on the &quot;moderate&quot; Muslims that he knows of? (Good luck with that!) I guess we&#039;re all supposed to ignore the fact that even the &quot;peaceful moderates&quot; hate America and want to see Israel pushed into the sea?  Sorry, I&#039;m an American, and for me, America comes first.  I couldn&#039;t care less about the &quot;moderates&quot; in Iran, either, and find it amusing that some people still hope for the &quot;moderate&quot; Iranians to overthrow the vile mullahs.    It&#039;ll just be &quot;moderates&quot; hating the Great Satan and the Little Satan.

Apparently because most Muslims aren&#039;t murderous lunatics, we&#039;re supposed to respect them and trust them, even though they don&#039;t respect or trust us.  Funny, that.
F.E.T.E.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Veeshir, you forgot &#8220;You traitors. [SPIT]&#8221;  ;-)</p>
<p>So Meryl, does this mean you&#8217;re now a traitor too?  AND a terror sympathizer?<br />
WTF!!</p>
<p>I guess that means because Dean criticizes Christianity, he&#8217;s a traitor too, considering &gt;80% of Americans are Christians.  I think I&#8217;d rather be a &#8220;traitor&#8221; for &#8220;slandering&#8221; (LOL) less than 1% of Americans.  Or at least &#8220;slandering&#8221; <strong>the religion</strong> chosen by less than 1% of Americans, anyway.  (But it&#8217;s <em>different</em> for him, right?)</p>
<p>And WTF is with this hangup on Kahane he&#8217;s got?  It&#8217;s not like there are a billion Kahanists on the planet wanting the rest of the world to convert to Orthodox Judaism.  I know (and OMG, like!) a self-identified Kahanist, if you will, and she couldn&#8217;t care less what religion I or anyone else belongs to. (And even if there were, it&#8217;s not like it&#8217;d be converting to what I see as an oppressive religion.)</p>
<p>What the hell is he trying to prove, anyway?  Does he think he&#8217;s going to convince teh internets that Islam is a Religion of Peace, based on the &#8220;moderate&#8221; Muslims that he knows of? (Good luck with that!) I guess we&#8217;re all supposed to ignore the fact that even the &#8220;peaceful moderates&#8221; hate America and want to see Israel pushed into the sea?  Sorry, I&#8217;m an American, and for me, America comes first.  I couldn&#8217;t care less about the &#8220;moderates&#8221; in Iran, either, and find it amusing that some people still hope for the &#8220;moderate&#8221; Iranians to overthrow the vile mullahs.    It&#8217;ll just be &#8220;moderates&#8221; hating the Great Satan and the Little Satan.</p>
<p>Apparently because most Muslims aren&#8217;t murderous lunatics, we&#8217;re supposed to respect them and trust them, even though they don&#8217;t respect or trust us.  Funny, that.<br />
F.E.T.E.</p>
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		<title>By: Wild Thing</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/11/27/2355/comment-page-1#comment-23220</link>
		<dc:creator>Wild Thing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your post about all of this is excellent. I just want to thank you. Just call me one that appreciates people like you and Robert Spencer and others that do want to get the truth and share about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your post about all of this is excellent. I just want to thank you. Just call me one that appreciates people like you and Robert Spencer and others that do want to get the truth and share about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Veeshir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Veeshir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s become unhinged and the only responses you&#039;ll get are unhinged, vitriolic, hate-filled, name-calling rants. 
It bothers me that I feel I can&#039;t even address his arguments as he just goes &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.indcjournal.com/archives/002793.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;absolutely crazy &lt;/a&gt;and starts just calling me names. Notice that he accused me over and over of saying stuff that I didn&#039;t say even after I pointed out that I hadn&#039;t said it. The funny part? Before one set of attacks, he sent me an email saying, &quot;I&#039;ve responded, perhaps we misunderstood each other&quot;. I figured he would have a reasoned response but it was the one with, &lt;b&gt;So stop lying, you fucking cowards&lt;/b&gt;

It&#039;s really too bad, I used to really respect him and now, I just cringe when I see his name. He&#039;s actually bullied me into not being able to discuss him because then I feel responsible for his absolutely deplorable behavior when he &lt;strike&gt;attacks&lt;/strike&gt; responds. 

I&#039;m only writing this here because I figure the post&#039;ll be enough and my little contribution wouldn&#039;t have much of an effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s become unhinged and the only responses you&#8217;ll get are unhinged, vitriolic, hate-filled, name-calling rants.<br />
It bothers me that I feel I can&#8217;t even address his arguments as he just goes <a href="http://www.indcjournal.com/archives/002793.php" rel="nofollow">absolutely crazy </a>and starts just calling me names. Notice that he accused me over and over of saying stuff that I didn&#8217;t say even after I pointed out that I hadn&#8217;t said it. The funny part? Before one set of attacks, he sent me an email saying, &#8220;I&#8217;ve responded, perhaps we misunderstood each other&#8221;. I figured he would have a reasoned response but it was the one with, <b>So stop lying, you fucking cowards</b></p>
<p>It&#8217;s really too bad, I used to really respect him and now, I just cringe when I see his name. He&#8217;s actually bullied me into not being able to discuss him because then I feel responsible for his absolutely deplorable behavior when he <strike>attacks</strike> responds. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m only writing this here because I figure the post&#8217;ll be enough and my little contribution wouldn&#8217;t have much of an effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Meryl Yourish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meryl Yourish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 13:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, his is the higher-traffic blog. Which is what makes the lack of clickthroughs so amusing.

I&#039;ve gotten about 400 referrers from him since he started this brouhaha. In roughly a week.

That&#039;s not counting the ones he made while writing his magnum opus about me.

&lt;strong&gt;Update: &lt;/strong&gt;Add 50 to that total as the sum of referrers from the---what is it now, three?---posts he wrote about me since yesterday. Yep. That&#039;s what his readers want, more personal attacks from Dean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, his is the higher-traffic blog. Which is what makes the lack of clickthroughs so amusing.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve gotten about 400 referrers from him since he started this brouhaha. In roughly a week.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not counting the ones he made while writing his magnum opus about me.</p>
<p><strong>Update: </strong>Add 50 to that total as the sum of referrers from the&#8212;what is it now, three?&#8212;posts he wrote about me since yesterday. Yep. That&#8217;s what his readers want, more personal attacks from Dean.</p>
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		<title>By: Aussie Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aussie Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 13:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough. You should just withhold linking to him, so he doesn&#039;t benefit from the traffic. Because I suspect he picks on higher-traffic blogs (like Jihad Watch and yours) in order to drive people to his.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough. You should just withhold linking to him, so he doesn&#8217;t benefit from the traffic. Because I suspect he picks on higher-traffic blogs (like Jihad Watch and yours) in order to drive people to his.</p>
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		<title>By: Meryl Yourish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meryl Yourish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mostly, Dave, because there&#039;s only so far I can let Dean talk trash about me before I respond.

Besides, he lies about me. It annoys me to see lies published about me going unanswered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mostly, Dave, because there&#8217;s only so far I can let Dean talk trash about me before I respond.</p>
<p>Besides, he lies about me. It annoys me to see lies published about me going unanswered.</p>
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