Comments on: Russia’s proxy war against Israel http://www.yourish.com/2006/10/05/2092 Cutting straight to the point Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:21:52 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Michael Lonie http://www.yourish.com/2006/10/05/2092/comment-page-1#comment-21975 Michael Lonie Fri, 06 Oct 2006 04:18:35 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/10/05/2092#comment-21975 The Russkies supported establishing Israel because they saw it as a blow against the British, whom Stalin still regarded in 1948 as the main enemies to "the Revolutionary Forces". It was sort of like traditional antisemites supporting Zionism as a means to rid Europe of its Jews. The Russkies supported establishing Israel because they saw it as a blow against the British, whom Stalin still regarded in 1948 as the main enemies to “the Revolutionary Forces”. It was sort of like traditional antisemites supporting Zionism as a means to rid Europe of its Jews.

]]> By: Sabba Hillel http://www.yourish.com/2006/10/05/2092/comment-page-1#comment-21968 Sabba Hillel Thu, 05 Oct 2006 20:16:37 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/10/05/2092#comment-21968 Consider that the Torah allows Egyptians to become full converts after three generations as opposed to Moav and Ammon in which only the women can become converts. The reason for both is Hakaras Hatov (gratitude). The Egyptians are recognized for having welcomed Yaakov and the family (even though it was because he was Yosef's father) and for having supported them during the famine. We said that Hashem is righteous in judgement because we see that he rewards the wicked for the good that they do. Similarly, we should recognize that the wicked did do something good (though they did not mean to). Consider that the Torah allows Egyptians to become full converts after three generations as opposed to Moav and Ammon in which only the women can become converts. The reason for both is Hakaras Hatov (gratitude). The Egyptians are recognized for having welcomed Yaakov and the family (even though it was because he was Yosef’s father) and for having supported them during the famine. We said that Hashem is righteous in judgement because we see that he rewards the wicked for the good that they do. Similarly, we should recognize that the wicked did do something good (though they did not mean to).

]]> By: Cynic http://www.yourish.com/2006/10/05/2092/comment-page-1#comment-21963 Cynic Thu, 05 Oct 2006 16:33:54 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/10/05/2092#comment-21963 <blockquote>The US and Israel didn’t develop the current special relationship until after the 1956 war.</blockquote> NO. Only after the 1967 war. In 1956 Dulles weighed in against Israel and to a lesser degree against the Brits and French; and had the support of the Russians to boot Ben Gurion out of Sinai.

The US and Israel didn’t develop the current special relationship until after the 1956 war.

NO. Only after the 1967 war. In 1956 Dulles weighed in against Israel and to a lesser degree against the Brits and French; and had the support of the Russians to boot Ben Gurion out of Sinai.

]]> By: Paul http://www.yourish.com/2006/10/05/2092/comment-page-1#comment-21958 Paul Thu, 05 Oct 2006 11:53:01 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/10/05/2092#comment-21958 The Russians are opportunists and no friend of Jews as evidenced by their past actions. The Russians are opportunists and no friend of Jews as evidenced by their past actions.

]]> By: Moshe Yudkowsky http://www.yourish.com/2006/10/05/2092/comment-page-1#comment-21957 Moshe Yudkowsky Thu, 05 Oct 2006 11:27:55 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/10/05/2092#comment-21957 Reminder: the Soviet Union helped establish the State of Israel. Of course, that was back in the day when the everyone (including both the US and the Israeli government) thought Israel was going to be a bastion of True Socialism. (Not that Israel ever fully recovered from socialism.) The US and Israel didn't develop the current special relationship until after the 1956 war. I'd cut the Soviets a little slack in recognition of their contribution. Reminder: the Soviet Union helped establish the State of Israel. Of course, that was back in the day when the everyone (including both the US and the Israeli government) thought Israel was going to be a bastion of True Socialism. (Not that Israel ever fully recovered from socialism.)

The US and Israel didn’t develop the current special relationship until after the 1956 war. I’d cut the Soviets a little slack in recognition of their contribution.

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