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	<title>Comments on: The AP discovers Middle East Christians</title>
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		<title>By: Michael Lonie</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/09/18/2030/comment-page-1#comment-21708</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Lonie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 00:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think there were any verses in the Christian Bible (or the Jewish one for that matter) which gave specific instructions to the faithful to oppress the blacks in America which the Southern whites could cite.  In any case Jim Crow was smashed within a century.  On the other hand the Quran specifically states that the faithful should fight the infidel until he converts, dies, or pays the jizya.  This has lasted 14 centuries and the Muslims will tell you that the injunctions of Allah are as fresh and relevant today as they were 1400 years ago.
If you had to live under the rules of Sharia as a dhimmi you&#039;d call it Apartheid, and you&#039;d be right.  Take a deep breath here, Wince, and consider the historical non-parallel.  Change has already been a long time not coming for the Muslim world, and it looks to be getting worse for non-Muslims real soon now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think there were any verses in the Christian Bible (or the Jewish one for that matter) which gave specific instructions to the faithful to oppress the blacks in America which the Southern whites could cite.  In any case Jim Crow was smashed within a century.  On the other hand the Quran specifically states that the faithful should fight the infidel until he converts, dies, or pays the jizya.  This has lasted 14 centuries and the Muslims will tell you that the injunctions of Allah are as fresh and relevant today as they were 1400 years ago.</p>
<p>If you had to live under the rules of Sharia as a dhimmi you&#8217;d call it Apartheid, and you&#8217;d be right.  Take a deep breath here, Wince, and consider the historical non-parallel.  Change has already been a long time not coming for the Muslim world, and it looks to be getting worse for non-Muslims real soon now.</p>
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		<title>By: Tatterdemalian</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/09/18/2030/comment-page-1#comment-21702</link>
		<dc:creator>Tatterdemalian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 15:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Take a deep breath here and consider this historical parallel. Change could be a long time coming.&quot;
And if it doesn&#039;t come at all?
What if we change before the Muslims do? We wouldn&#039;t really even need to accept the authority of Sharia, just of the UN... something many of our own liberal political leaders have actually demanded of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Take a deep breath here and consider this historical parallel. Change could be a long time coming.&#8221;</p>
<p>And if it doesn&#8217;t come at all?</p>
<p>What if we change before the Muslims do? We wouldn&#8217;t really even need to accept the authority of Sharia, just of the UN&#8230; something many of our own liberal political leaders have actually demanded of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Bensky</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/09/18/2030/comment-page-1#comment-21696</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Bensky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 10:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With my prescience, I predict that the reaction of the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians to the attacks on the churches in Gaza and other Christian sites across the Middle East will be...any day now in righteous anger at the plight of their co-religionists they&#039;lll...actually, this they&#039;ll manaage to let pass but the sins, real or imagined of Jews, that&#039;s what really upsets them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With my prescience, I predict that the reaction of the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians to the attacks on the churches in Gaza and other Christian sites across the Middle East will be&#8230;any day now in righteous anger at the plight of their co-religionists they&#8217;lll&#8230;actually, this they&#8217;ll manaage to let pass but the sins, real or imagined of Jews, that&#8217;s what really upsets them.</p>
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		<title>By: Wince and Nod</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/09/18/2030/comment-page-1#comment-21695</link>
		<dc:creator>Wince and Nod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 07:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think perhaps we need to recast some this opprobrium towards Muslims in a different mold.  The analogy I wish to draw is between rampant bigotry among Muslims towards Christian and Jewish minorities living in their midst and rampant bigotry not so long ago among white Americans towards black American minorities in living in their midst.
The rampant bigotry among Muslims even leads to uppity Christians being lynched.
In this light, Muslims who justify their bigotry and their behavior by referring to the Koran are no different than white Christians who abused the Bible in the same way.
So - all those Muslims who responded to the Pope with violent protests?  Miserable bigots, the lot of them.  Do you fight bigotry by moderating your criticism of it?
There were plenty of white Americans who did little but quietly say to their kids, &quot;We don&#039;t act like that.&quot;  There were plenty of white American leaders who did nothing effective to fight bigotry for decades after the Civil War.
Take a deep breath here and consider this historical parallel.  Change could be a long time coming.
Yours,
Wince</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think perhaps we need to recast some this opprobrium towards Muslims in a different mold.  The analogy I wish to draw is between rampant bigotry among Muslims towards Christian and Jewish minorities living in their midst and rampant bigotry not so long ago among white Americans towards black American minorities in living in their midst.</p>
<p>The rampant bigotry among Muslims even leads to uppity Christians being lynched.</p>
<p>In this light, Muslims who justify their bigotry and their behavior by referring to the Koran are no different than white Christians who abused the Bible in the same way.</p>
<p>So &#8211; all those Muslims who responded to the Pope with violent protests?  Miserable bigots, the lot of them.  Do you fight bigotry by moderating your criticism of it?</p>
<p>There were plenty of white Americans who did little but quietly say to their kids, &#8220;We don&#8217;t act like that.&#8221;  There were plenty of white American leaders who did nothing effective to fight bigotry for decades after the Civil War.</p>
<p>Take a deep breath here and consider this historical parallel.  Change could be a long time coming.</p>
<p>Yours,<br />
Wince</p>
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		<title>By: Yankev</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/09/18/2030/comment-page-1#comment-21690</link>
		<dc:creator>Yankev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;[i]magine it was Jews attacking churches, and imagine the headlines, the scornful leads, the angry editorials. But since itâ€™s only Muslims attacking, the media is blamingâ€”wait for itâ€”not the Muslims for reacting violently to the Popeâ€™s speech, but the Pope, for making the speech in the first place.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You don&#039;t have to imagine at all. A few years ago PA murderers armed with select-fire rifles invaded Bethlehem&#039;s Church of the Nativity, took the monks and tourists hostage, desecrated the church, and used the church as a base for sniper attacks. The IDF put the church under seige in order to free the hostages; eventually the terrorists surrendered to an international body (which released them after a brief interval, in defiance of their deal with Israel, but that&#039;s another matter.)
Shortly after the seige began, Congressman Bob Ney (R-OH) remarked that he was very troubled by the religious implications of Jews initiating a seige of the church. Oddly enough, as far as I know he never expressed any qualms about the religious implication of armed Muslim terrorists invading it and taking hostages, and using it as a base to shoot at Israelis.
The Italian paper LaStampa went even further, of course, running a cartoon showing Israeli tanks menacing baby whatsisname, who was shown lamenting &quot;Don&#039;t tell me they are planning to kill me again?&quot;
I forget, what&#039;s the polite word for Christ killer? Oh, yeah, I remember now it&#039;s Zionist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>[i]magine it was Jews attacking churches, and imagine the headlines, the scornful leads, the angry editorials. But since itâ€™s only Muslims attacking, the media is blamingâ€”wait for itâ€”not the Muslims for reacting violently to the Popeâ€™s speech, but the Pope, for making the speech in the first place.</p></blockquote>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to imagine at all. A few years ago PA murderers armed with select-fire rifles invaded Bethlehem&#8217;s Church of the Nativity, took the monks and tourists hostage, desecrated the church, and used the church as a base for sniper attacks. The IDF put the church under seige in order to free the hostages; eventually the terrorists surrendered to an international body (which released them after a brief interval, in defiance of their deal with Israel, but that&#8217;s another matter.) </p>
<p>Shortly after the seige began, Congressman Bob Ney (R-OH) remarked that he was very troubled by the religious implications of Jews initiating a seige of the church. Oddly enough, as far as I know he never expressed any qualms about the religious implication of armed Muslim terrorists invading it and taking hostages, and using it as a base to shoot at Israelis.</p>
<p>The Italian paper LaStampa went even further, of course, running a cartoon showing Israeli tanks menacing baby whatsisname, who was shown lamenting &#8220;Don&#8217;t tell me they are planning to kill me again?&#8221;</p>
<p>I forget, what&#8217;s the polite word for Christ killer? Oh, yeah, I remember now it&#8217;s Zionist.</p>
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		<title>By: A Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/09/18/2030/comment-page-1#comment-21689</link>
		<dc:creator>A Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 17:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Pope Shenouda needs to make sure he stays good (I don&#039;t like to toss the term dhimmi around as much as some people, but I think dhimmi law was at least partially created for his people), or else unpleasant stuff may happen to him &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Shenouda_III_of_Alexandria&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;again&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Pope Shenouda needs to make sure he stays good (I don&#8217;t like to toss the term dhimmi around as much as some people, but I think dhimmi law was at least partially created for his people), or else unpleasant stuff may happen to him <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Shenouda_III_of_Alexandria" rel="nofollow">again</a>.</p>
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