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	<title>Comments on: The enemy is winning the propaganda war</title>
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		<title>By: Ken S</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/08/10/1884/comment-page-1#comment-19034</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2006 02:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.secondbreakfast.net/archives/003089.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Manual Trackback™&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another <a href="http://www.secondbreakfast.net/archives/003089.html" rel="nofollow">Manual Trackback™</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tatterdemalian</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/08/10/1884/comment-page-1#comment-18543</link>
		<dc:creator>Tatterdemalian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But, I am sure it makes you feel better that your typing is doing SOMETHING, right?&quot;

In a propaganda war, the weapons are words. Our typing is the counter to the MSM&#039;s, and the blogosphere has actually devastated enemy armies (Reutergate) and even taken out the enemy commanders (Rathergate).

I don&#039;t buy the claim that we&#039;re losing the propaganda war just yet. The real measure of success is not the size of the army, but their effectiveness at swaying public opinion. The MSM is becoming more blatant in its embrace of terrorists and anti-semites, true, but I see that more as a sign of their desperation than of their confidence. Public trust in the MSM is at an all-time low, and will only get lower the more they make common cause with Hezbollah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But, I am sure it makes you feel better that your typing is doing SOMETHING, right?&#8221;</p>
<p>In a propaganda war, the weapons are words. Our typing is the counter to the MSM&#8217;s, and the blogosphere has actually devastated enemy armies (Reutergate) and even taken out the enemy commanders (Rathergate).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t buy the claim that we&#8217;re losing the propaganda war just yet. The real measure of success is not the size of the army, but their effectiveness at swaying public opinion. The MSM is becoming more blatant in its embrace of terrorists and anti-semites, true, but I see that more as a sign of their desperation than of their confidence. Public trust in the MSM is at an all-time low, and will only get lower the more they make common cause with Hezbollah.</p>
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		<title>By: kd</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/08/10/1884/comment-page-1#comment-18526</link>
		<dc:creator>kd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 04:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a completely different note, &quot;yes, *she* did?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a completely different note, &#8220;yes, *she* did?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: charles warren</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/08/10/1884/comment-page-1#comment-18524</link>
		<dc:creator>charles warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 04:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if it bleeds, it leads. and the one that whines loudest is the underdog. not to say that the Israeli butcher bill is as long as the Lebanese, but Israel hasn&#039;t been proposing obliterating the Lebanese state and pushing all the Lebanese into the sea, either...

you know, we may like it in the dar al islam. no more bitches in hr. no more women drivers, talking on cell phone or not. no more whining about the death penalty (if it isn&#039;t unusual, it isn&#039;t cruel). tgif will be celebrated at the mosque, but we really WILL thank God, or Allah anyway... the Party for Pre-Emptive Surrender says it&#039;s easy. simply say &quot;there is no God but Allah and Mohammed is his prophet&quot;. then bring on the burkas. oh, can all CA divorce law... a text message on her cell phone is adequate notice (precedent: a case adjudicated in the Emirates).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if it bleeds, it leads. and the one that whines loudest is the underdog. not to say that the Israeli butcher bill is as long as the Lebanese, but Israel hasn&#8217;t been proposing obliterating the Lebanese state and pushing all the Lebanese into the sea, either&#8230;</p>
<p>you know, we may like it in the dar al islam. no more bitches in hr. no more women drivers, talking on cell phone or not. no more whining about the death penalty (if it isn&#8217;t unusual, it isn&#8217;t cruel). tgif will be celebrated at the mosque, but we really WILL thank God, or Allah anyway&#8230; the Party for Pre-Emptive Surrender says it&#8217;s easy. simply say &#8220;there is no God but Allah and Mohammed is his prophet&#8221;. then bring on the burkas. oh, can all CA divorce law&#8230; a text message on her cell phone is adequate notice (precedent: a case adjudicated in the Emirates).</p>
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		<title>By: w3</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/08/10/1884/comment-page-1#comment-18521</link>
		<dc:creator>w3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 03:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see this as a win for the enemy. I see this as them overplaying their hand and exposing themselves unintentionally. 

Or what about this...

leave open the possibility that Reuters is playing a game of doing what they have to in order to get access to these areas controlled by Hizb&#039;allah and still tipping us to the fact that the narrative is completely staged and phony. That photoshop job was horrid. Come on. Surely seasoned manipulators of public opinon such as the editors at Reuters picked up on it.

So they get the access, we get the pictures and the video footage, we have the bloggers and they uncover the story. Reuters can shrug to Hizb&#039;allah that &quot;hey, we tried,&quot; and still maintain their access.

I&#039;m not saying it&#039;s true, it&#039;s just a possibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see this as a win for the enemy. I see this as them overplaying their hand and exposing themselves unintentionally. </p>
<p>Or what about this&#8230;</p>
<p>leave open the possibility that Reuters is playing a game of doing what they have to in order to get access to these areas controlled by Hizb&#8217;allah and still tipping us to the fact that the narrative is completely staged and phony. That photoshop job was horrid. Come on. Surely seasoned manipulators of public opinon such as the editors at Reuters picked up on it.</p>
<p>So they get the access, we get the pictures and the video footage, we have the bloggers and they uncover the story. Reuters can shrug to Hizb&#8217;allah that &#8220;hey, we tried,&#8221; and still maintain their access.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying it&#8217;s true, it&#8217;s just a possibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Francis</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/08/10/1884/comment-page-1#comment-18516</link>
		<dc:creator>Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I&#039;m too optimistic but I think &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.di2.nu/200608/10.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the MSM is destroying itself&lt;/a&gt; and hence the terrorists are not going to win in the longer term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I&#8217;m too optimistic but I think <a href="http://www.di2.nu/200608/10.htm" rel="nofollow">the MSM is destroying itself</a> and hence the terrorists are not going to win in the longer term.</p>
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		<title>By: Citizen Deux</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/08/10/1884/comment-page-1#comment-18515</link>
		<dc:creator>Citizen Deux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This conflict, from New York to London to Baghdad to Bali to Jakarta to Tehran to Beruit is all part of the global war.  It is a war of the Enlightened Free World (EFW) against the Islamo-Fascist Alliance (IFA).  The media can not conceive of the &quot;oppressed&quot; IFA acting in such a barbaric manner.  And yet in all of their actions (suicide bombers, indiscriminate targeting of civilians, and the torture and murder of prisoners) they validate their willingness to use extreme measures to further their cause.

The war is real, it is lethal and it must be won...by our side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This conflict, from New York to London to Baghdad to Bali to Jakarta to Tehran to Beruit is all part of the global war.  It is a war of the Enlightened Free World (EFW) against the Islamo-Fascist Alliance (IFA).  The media can not conceive of the &#8220;oppressed&#8221; IFA acting in such a barbaric manner.  And yet in all of their actions (suicide bombers, indiscriminate targeting of civilians, and the torture and murder of prisoners) they validate their willingness to use extreme measures to further their cause.</p>
<p>The war is real, it is lethal and it must be won&#8230;by our side.</p>
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		<title>By: Meryl Yourish</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/08/10/1884/comment-page-1#comment-18513</link>
		<dc:creator>Meryl Yourish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The above comment would make more sense if you could read the comment I deleted.

Sometimes, the garbage manages to make it through the nets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The above comment would make more sense if you could read the comment I deleted.</p>
<p>Sometimes, the garbage manages to make it through the nets.</p>
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		<title>By: cond0010</title>
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		<dc:creator>cond0010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 20:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(* How about the fact that the israelis keep making their numerous “mistakes” while 1000 Lebanese civilians have died in the last month? *)

Sebastian, Hezbollah captured 2 Israeli soldiers on July 12th, starting this war.  It has now been 30 days of war with ~1000 Lebanese civilians dying.

&quot;In 1994, the Hutu majority in Rwanda organized and implemented the mass slaughter of the Tutsi minority. In just 100 days, 800,000 Tutsi were slaughtered.&quot; ***

That means the Hutus _slaughtered_ 240,000 Tutsis in only 30 days.

The Tutsis had Guns, &amp; Machetes
The Israelis have Guns, Smart Bombs, jet Fighters, Bunker Busters, Missiles, Sea Going Gun Platforms, etc.

1000 civilians in 30 days vs 240,000 in 30 days.

Simple math and a little critical thinking Sebastian.  Please try to get some perspective

If the Israelis REALLY wanted to hurt civilians, south Lebanon would be devoid of life by now...

*** http://history1900s.about.com/od/rwandangenocide/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(* How about the fact that the israelis keep making their numerous “mistakes” while 1000 Lebanese civilians have died in the last month? *)</p>
<p>Sebastian, Hezbollah captured 2 Israeli soldiers on July 12th, starting this war.  It has now been 30 days of war with ~1000 Lebanese civilians dying.</p>
<p>&#8220;In 1994, the Hutu majority in Rwanda organized and implemented the mass slaughter of the Tutsi minority. In just 100 days, 800,000 Tutsi were slaughtered.&#8221; ***</p>
<p>That means the Hutus _slaughtered_ 240,000 Tutsis in only 30 days.</p>
<p>The Tutsis had Guns, &amp; Machetes<br />
The Israelis have Guns, Smart Bombs, jet Fighters, Bunker Busters, Missiles, Sea Going Gun Platforms, etc.</p>
<p>1000 civilians in 30 days vs 240,000 in 30 days.</p>
<p>Simple math and a little critical thinking Sebastian.  Please try to get some perspective</p>
<p>If the Israelis REALLY wanted to hurt civilians, south Lebanon would be devoid of life by now&#8230;</p>
<p>*** <a href="http://history1900s.about.com/od/rwandangenocide/" rel="nofollow">http://history1900s.about.com/od/rwandangenocide/</a></p>
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		<title>By: careful reader</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/08/10/1884/comment-page-1#comment-18508</link>
		<dc:creator>careful reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 20:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of folks have been saying for years that this is mostly a media war, dressed up as a conventional ground conflict. For all the yelling and screaming and posturing, the actual total body counts of the last few years in all theatres (USA, UK, Europe, Afghanistan, Iraq, India, Indonesia, Israel) still does not match a single week of WWII stats (all theatres). The media - whether they realize it or not - have taken sides, and chosen poorly. Much of the best blogging of the last few years has been a chronicle of the decline of the western media edifice that was built up so carefully in the post-WWII years. The only people who don&#039;t quite get it yet are the investors who have untold millions in Reuters, AP, the newspapers, etc. The investors still have time to get out. Unless of course the Iranians actually get a couple of nukes. And history will record which western dupe the Bringer of the Hidden Imam chatted with last: Wallace the Octagenarian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of folks have been saying for years that this is mostly a media war, dressed up as a conventional ground conflict. For all the yelling and screaming and posturing, the actual total body counts of the last few years in all theatres (USA, UK, Europe, Afghanistan, Iraq, India, Indonesia, Israel) still does not match a single week of WWII stats (all theatres). The media &#8211; whether they realize it or not &#8211; have taken sides, and chosen poorly. Much of the best blogging of the last few years has been a chronicle of the decline of the western media edifice that was built up so carefully in the post-WWII years. The only people who don&#8217;t quite get it yet are the investors who have untold millions in Reuters, AP, the newspapers, etc. The investors still have time to get out. Unless of course the Iranians actually get a couple of nukes. And history will record which western dupe the Bringer of the Hidden Imam chatted with last: Wallace the Octagenarian.</p>
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