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	<title>Comments on: Hezbullah murders eleven more civilians</title>
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		<title>By: Michael Lonie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Lonie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 02:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrorism, the deliberate targeting of civilians by preference, has become the standard method of Arab and Muslim warfare over the last forty years.  Its use has expanded from its initial use against the Jews of Israel, the French in Algeria, and against India to the entire world.  As we see in Iraq the Muslims are now using it against each other too.  It may well come to be that such tactics, the preferential targeting of civilians, will become a recognized part of legal warfare.  In such a case, don&#039;t the Muslims realize that we and Israel could kill them by orders of magnitude more than the Muslims kill of us?  Are they too stupid and shortsighted to realize what they are doing, legalizing mass murder as a legitimate weapon of war?
This has happened before.  Before WWII aerial bombardment of civilians was looked on with the utmost horror and regarded as a war crime.  Then the Axis powers stomped all over international law, including the law of armed combat.  By the time they got done gassing Ethiopians from the air, terror bombing Ethiopians, Poles, Chinese, Dutch, Norwegians, and British, there was nothing left of the prohibition against such bombing.  The Axis powers had no legal standing left to complain when the Allies did it to them.  All they could do was whine when the Allies did it more fiercely than the Axis had been able to do.
Muslims are awfully complacent about the continued self-restraint of the people they attack so viciously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrorism, the deliberate targeting of civilians by preference, has become the standard method of Arab and Muslim warfare over the last forty years.  Its use has expanded from its initial use against the Jews of Israel, the French in Algeria, and against India to the entire world.  As we see in Iraq the Muslims are now using it against each other too.  It may well come to be that such tactics, the preferential targeting of civilians, will become a recognized part of legal warfare.  In such a case, don&#8217;t the Muslims realize that we and Israel could kill them by orders of magnitude more than the Muslims kill of us?  Are they too stupid and shortsighted to realize what they are doing, legalizing mass murder as a legitimate weapon of war?</p>
<p>This has happened before.  Before WWII aerial bombardment of civilians was looked on with the utmost horror and regarded as a war crime.  Then the Axis powers stomped all over international law, including the law of armed combat.  By the time they got done gassing Ethiopians from the air, terror bombing Ethiopians, Poles, Chinese, Dutch, Norwegians, and British, there was nothing left of the prohibition against such bombing.  The Axis powers had no legal standing left to complain when the Allies did it to them.  All they could do was whine when the Allies did it more fiercely than the Axis had been able to do.</p>
<p>Muslims are awfully complacent about the continued self-restraint of the people they attack so viciously.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Farber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Farber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Aug 2006 20:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And use of such weapons fired indiscriminately at cities and villages, rather than at military targets, is also worth focusing on, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And use of such weapons fired indiscriminately at cities and villages, rather than at military targets, is also worth focusing on, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Farber</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/08/06/1849/comment-page-1#comment-17672</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Farber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Aug 2006 20:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hezbullah murders eleven more civilians&quot;
Actually, they appear to be IDF; &lt;a&gt;see here&lt;/a&gt;.  Not that that&#039;s a particular improvement.
Also, just FYI, the &quot;deliberately added ball bearings&quot; thing, well, all anti-personnel weapons do the equivalent; that&#039;s precisely what US antipersonnel warheads (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?hs=L68&amp;hl=en&amp;lr=lang_en&amp;safe=off&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&amp;q=+blast-fragmentation+warhead&amp;btnG=Search&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blast-fragmentation&lt;/a&gt;) on missiles have, and that&#039;s what a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m18-claymore.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;claymore&lt;/a&gt; is.
It&#039;s terrible, but it&#039;s not -- and I mention this strictly in the interest of fact, of course -- any different than the fact that bullets are made out of metal; it&#039;s not a war crime, per se, that anti-personnel weapons are anti-personnel weapons, and launch sprays of metal (&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrapnel&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;shrapnel&lt;/a&gt;).  What&#039;s a war crime is targeting civilians, and hiding your weapons amongst civilians, and so on.
As I say, I mention this strictly so that you&#039;ll be aware, in case someone else brings it up; I&#039;d rather see you focus on the strong case, rather than a point that can easily be knocked down.  That Hezbollah uses standard anti-personnel warheads is not a point, I think, worth focusing on.  Use of such a weapon in a bomb set off in a pizsa parlor or in a mall or on a bus, is worth focusing on, instead.</description>
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<p>Actually, they appear to be IDF; <a>see here</a>.  Not that that&#8217;s a particular improvement.</p>
<p>Also, just FYI, the &#8220;deliberately added ball bearings&#8221; thing, well, all anti-personnel weapons do the equivalent; that&#8217;s precisely what US antipersonnel warheads (<a href="http://www.google.com/search?hs=L68&amp;hl=en&amp;lr=lang_en&amp;safe=off&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&amp;q=+blast-fragmentation+warhead&amp;btnG=Search" rel="nofollow">blast-fragmentation</a>) on missiles have, and that&#8217;s what a <a href="http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m18-claymore.htm" rel="nofollow">claymore</a> is.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s terrible, but it&#8217;s not &#8212; and I mention this strictly in the interest of fact, of course &#8212; any different than the fact that bullets are made out of metal; it&#8217;s not a war crime, per se, that anti-personnel weapons are anti-personnel weapons, and launch sprays of metal (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrapnel" rel="nofollow">shrapnel</a>).  What&#8217;s a war crime is targeting civilians, and hiding your weapons amongst civilians, and so on.  </p>
<p>As I say, I mention this strictly so that you&#8217;ll be aware, in case someone else brings it up; I&#8217;d rather see you focus on the strong case, rather than a point that can easily be knocked down.  That Hezbollah uses standard anti-personnel warheads is not a point, I think, worth focusing on.  Use of such a weapon in a bomb set off in a pizsa parlor or in a mall or on a bus, is worth focusing on, instead.</p>
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