Comments on: Imagine a world without Israel http://www.yourish.com/2006/07/13/1653 Cutting straight to the point Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:40:44 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: rjschwarz http://www.yourish.com/2006/07/13/1653/comment-page-1#comment-13009 rjschwarz Fri, 14 Jul 2006 22:03:16 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/07/13/1653#comment-13009 A world without Israel. It seems to me Palestine would be similar to Yemen if the Zionists had not moved in. An economic basketcase. Ignored by most-everyone. Occasional civil wars and perhaps partition during the cold war. Brutal dictatorship who barely controlled the country. A world without Israel would be a world in which Islamic nations blamed the West directly for their failure instead of blaming Israel. I believe the level of seething and hate would increase. A world without Israel would have seen adventurous nations like Nasser's Egypt aiming at weeker neighbors like Libya (and its oil) and Sudan (and its oil) rather than ones that could defend themselves (like Israel) leading to an increased likelyhood of war between the Anglo/French alliance (Suez 2) and Egypt/Soviet Union. A world without Israel would have been a bloodier place for everyone invovled. A world without Israel.

It seems to me Palestine would be similar to Yemen if the Zionists had not moved in. An economic basketcase. Ignored by most-everyone. Occasional civil wars and perhaps partition during the cold war. Brutal dictatorship who barely controlled the country.

A world without Israel would be a world in which Islamic nations blamed the West directly for their failure instead of blaming Israel. I believe the level of seething and hate would increase.

A world without Israel would have seen adventurous nations like Nasser’s Egypt aiming at weeker neighbors like Libya (and its oil) and Sudan (and its oil) rather than ones that could defend themselves (like Israel) leading to an increased likelyhood of war between the Anglo/French alliance (Suez 2) and Egypt/Soviet Union.

A world without Israel would have been a bloodier place for everyone invovled.

]]> By: The Wide Awake Cafe » Israel Has a Right to Defend Itself Unequivocally http://www.yourish.com/2006/07/13/1653/comment-page-1#comment-12966 The Wide Awake Cafe » Israel Has a Right to Defend Itself Unequivocally Fri, 14 Jul 2006 17:58:32 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/07/13/1653#comment-12966 [...] Meryl Yourish in response to a crazed leftist imagines life without Israel. [...] [...] Meryl Yourish in response to a crazed leftist imagines life without Israel. [...]

]]> By: Meryl Yourish http://www.yourish.com/2006/07/13/1653/comment-page-1#comment-12964 Meryl Yourish Fri, 14 Jul 2006 17:09:20 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/07/13/1653#comment-12964 I believe you. And yet, the piece simply begged to be fisked. The really sad thing is, Nillion, I've seen that sentiment elsewhere, and not just on neo-Nazi sites (not saying that's what Kos is). There is a large portion of people out there, both left and right, who would be thrilled to death if Israel ceased to exist. I believe you. And yet, the piece simply begged to be fisked.

The really sad thing is, Nillion, I’ve seen that sentiment elsewhere, and not just on neo-Nazi sites (not saying that’s what Kos is). There is a large portion of people out there, both left and right, who would be thrilled to death if Israel ceased to exist.

]]> By: Nillion http://www.yourish.com/2006/07/13/1653/comment-page-1#comment-12962 Nillion Fri, 14 Jul 2006 16:29:45 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/07/13/1653#comment-12962 This nut does not represent the average DailyKos user. In fact, if you look at <a href="http://wakeupfromyourslumber.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">his blog</a> about a third of the way down, you can see he was banned for making that thread. This nut does not represent the average DailyKos user. In fact, if you look at his blog about a third of the way down, you can see he was banned for making that thread.

]]> By: Joel http://www.yourish.com/2006/07/13/1653/comment-page-1#comment-12954 Joel Fri, 14 Jul 2006 15:23:40 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/07/13/1653#comment-12954 The Arabs are pissed at the Israeli occupation of Israel! The Arabs are pissed at the Israeli occupation of Israel!

]]> By: Pajamas Media http://www.yourish.com/2006/07/13/1653/comment-page-1#comment-12946 Pajamas Media Fri, 14 Jul 2006 14:44:33 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/07/13/1653#comment-12946 <strong>The Israel-Hezbollah War Part Two...</strong> [IN ANOTHER IMPORTANT BREAKING NEWS, INDIA IS BLAMING PAKISTAN FOR MONDAY'S TERROR ATTACKS: see Pajamas Media coverage here] This is a developing post; scroll down for more stories July 14, 2006 News Breaks (blogs and opinion below) 05:50 PDT Israel..... The Israel-Hezbollah War Part Two…

[IN ANOTHER IMPORTANT BREAKING NEWS, INDIA IS BLAMING PAKISTAN FOR MONDAY'S TERROR ATTACKS: see Pajamas Media coverage here] This is a developing post; scroll down for more stories July 14, 2006 News Breaks (blogs and opinion below) 05:50 PDT Israel…..

]]> By: Ted http://www.yourish.com/2006/07/13/1653/comment-page-1#comment-12939 Ted Fri, 14 Jul 2006 13:52:56 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/07/13/1653#comment-12939 To the best of my knowledge, there WAS a "world without Israel" between, roughly 70 AD and the re-establishment of a sovereign Jewish state in 1948. A thought experiment would be to compare the life of the Jewish people in general,and individual Jews in particular, within that previous time period and the last 58 years. Any objective view of the results would find that the "world without Israel" was a particuarly violent and dreadful place. And not just for Jewish people. Of course, I happen to live within a "reality based time continuum", unlike those that inhabit "Kos-land". ymmv To the best of my knowledge, there WAS a “world without Israel” between, roughly 70 AD and the re-establishment of a sovereign Jewish state in 1948.

A thought experiment would be to compare the life of the Jewish people in general,and individual Jews in particular, within that previous time period and the last 58 years.

Any objective view of the results would find that the “world without Israel” was a particuarly violent and dreadful place. And not just for Jewish people.

Of course, I happen to live within a “reality based time continuum”, unlike those that inhabit “Kos-land”.

ymmv

]]> By: Tatterdemalian http://www.yourish.com/2006/07/13/1653/comment-page-1#comment-12926 Tatterdemalian Fri, 14 Jul 2006 12:34:10 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/07/13/1653#comment-12926 Where I live, there was a string of rapes committed by a man described by one of his victims as being "black, 6'3" tall, heavyset, wearing a flowery Hawaiian shirt." The most unusual thing about the "flower-shirt rapist" was that only that one victim went to the police; other victims tied to the rapist by DNA evidence refused to give descriptions of their attackers, and one who had been beaten into a three-day coma threatened to sue the police for collecting evidence from her without her consent. She later explained to a reporter her strange protectiveness toward the man who raped and beat her: "I refuse to be involved in sending another black man to prision." All the victims were black activists from either the Nation of Islam or the (New?) Black Panthers. The only victim who went to the police was banned from the NOI shortly after she did so. Never underestimate the power of politically correct groupthink. Where I live, there was a string of rapes committed by a man described by one of his victims as being “black, 6′3″ tall, heavyset, wearing a flowery Hawaiian shirt.” The most unusual thing about the “flower-shirt rapist” was that only that one victim went to the police; other victims tied to the rapist by DNA evidence refused to give descriptions of their attackers, and one who had been beaten into a three-day coma threatened to sue the police for collecting evidence from her without her consent. She later explained to a reporter her strange protectiveness toward the man who raped and beat her: “I refuse to be involved in sending another black man to prision.”

All the victims were black activists from either the Nation of Islam or the (New?) Black Panthers. The only victim who went to the police was banned from the NOI shortly after she did so.

Never underestimate the power of politically correct groupthink.

]]> By: Cynic http://www.yourish.com/2006/07/13/1653/comment-page-1#comment-12925 Cynic Fri, 14 Jul 2006 12:30:09 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/07/13/1653#comment-12925 <blockquote>if there was no need for a Jewish majority - where there would otherwise be none.</blockquote> <a href="http://www.jerusalem-archives.org/period2/2-6.html" rel="nofollow">population of Jerusalem</a> <blockquote>The total population reaches almost 40,000 in 1889: 25,000 Jews, 7,000 Moslems and 7,000 Christians. In 1896, the population of Jerusalem reaches 45,300: 28,000 Jews; 8,700 Christian Arabs/Europeans; and 8,600 Moslem Arabs. </blockquote> david foster said: <blockquote>... one of our two major political parties didn’t choose to affiliate itself with a website which is in essence a coalition of idiots.</blockquote> Maybe because they agree with the website's message?

if there was no need for a Jewish majority – where there would otherwise be none.

population of Jerusalem

The total population reaches almost 40,000 in 1889: 25,000 Jews, 7,000 Moslems and 7,000 Christians.
In 1896, the population of Jerusalem reaches 45,300: 28,000 Jews; 8,700 Christian Arabs/Europeans; and 8,600 Moslem Arabs.

david foster said:

… one of our two major political parties didn’t choose to affiliate itself with a website which is in essence a coalition of idiots.

Maybe because they agree with the website’s message?

]]> By: Robert http://www.yourish.com/2006/07/13/1653/comment-page-1#comment-12908 Robert Fri, 14 Jul 2006 09:28:10 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/07/13/1653#comment-12908 I wonder if she got raped if she would write a sweet poem about her attacker? I wonder if she got raped if she would write a sweet poem about her attacker?

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