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		<title>By: Joel</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/06/20/1475/comment-page-1#comment-10209</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 18:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>15 Ephraim:
&quot;Only in Israel can someone like Shimon Peres still show his face in public, much less be part of the governmemnt.&quot;
Amen to that. Also how on Earth a Stalin looking, ignorant union thug named Amir Peretz can wind up with the Defense protfolio is beyond me. One of my Orhtodox co-workers a few moths ago referred to Ehud Olmert as a &quot;snake.&quot; I think he was right. If a hostile government across the James River was shelling Richmond, or across the Hudson River was shelling Manhattan, we would be demanding total war against that terror entity. I see no reason why the people of Sderot have to live in fear. I think that Israel has been trying to wage war on the cheap by an assassination here and another assassination there. Trying (admirably I might ad) to limit both Palestinain and Israeli casualties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>15 Ephraim:</p>
<p>&#8220;Only in Israel can someone like Shimon Peres still show his face in public, much less be part of the governmemnt.&#8221;<br />
Amen to that. Also how on Earth a Stalin looking, ignorant union thug named Amir Peretz can wind up with the Defense protfolio is beyond me. One of my Orhtodox co-workers a few moths ago referred to Ehud Olmert as a &#8220;snake.&#8221; I think he was right. If a hostile government across the James River was shelling Richmond, or across the Hudson River was shelling Manhattan, we would be demanding total war against that terror entity. I see no reason why the people of Sderot have to live in fear. I think that Israel has been trying to wage war on the cheap by an assassination here and another assassination there. Trying (admirably I might ad) to limit both Palestinain and Israeli casualties.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/06/20/1475/comment-page-1#comment-10208</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 18:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meryl
Israel should turn off the electric power in Gaza and cut off the water that she  supplies them. Also no jobs for Palestinians in Israel as well.
Somehow when Pals kill innocent Jews it does not seem to cause bad publicity for them in Europe, I wonder why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meryl<br />
Israel should turn off the electric power in Gaza and cut off the water that she  supplies them. Also no jobs for Palestinians in Israel as well.<br />
Somehow when Pals kill innocent Jews it does not seem to cause bad publicity for them in Europe, I wonder why?</p>
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		<title>By: Meryl Yourish</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/06/20/1475/comment-page-1#comment-10206</link>
		<dc:creator>Meryl Yourish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 18:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And another attack &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3265784,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;missed&lt;/a&gt; and killed innocents.
I&#039;m sorry, but the negative PR factor alone is killing Israel.
This way isn&#039;t working. The attacks haven&#039;t stopped.
I think Ephraim has a point about threatenting the leadership. It always worked before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And another attack <a href="http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3265784,00.html" rel="nofollow">missed</a> and killed innocents.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but the negative PR factor alone is killing Israel.</p>
<p>This way isn&#8217;t working. The attacks haven&#8217;t stopped.</p>
<p>I think Ephraim has a point about threatenting the leadership. It always worked before.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/06/20/1475/comment-page-1#comment-10205</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 18:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there is a choice between innocent Isreali deaths or innocent Palestinian deaths - I know what my choice will be. Sorry but Hamas has suicide bombed any sympathy out of me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there is a choice between innocent Isreali deaths or innocent Palestinian deaths &#8211; I know what my choice will be. Sorry but Hamas has suicide bombed any sympathy out of me.</p>
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		<title>By: Ephraim</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/06/20/1475/comment-page-1#comment-10203</link>
		<dc:creator>Ephraim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it is sad when children are killed in war. Israel should bow its collective head in silence for a moment or two, apologize for any &quot;collatral damage&quot; and then get on with bombing the terrorsts to Kingdom Come, come hell or high water.
The alternative to IDF action is dead Israeli kids rather than dead paleo kids.
Take your choice.
The reason this is still happening is not because Israel is responding too harshly, it is because it is not reponding harshly enough. The next time a Qassem is fired at Sderot, Israel should bomb all PA institutions flat, regardless of who is in them, specifically targeting the Hamas leadership. Forget all of these nickel-and-dime targeted &quot;assassinations&quot;. There&#039;s a war on, and Israel is being derelict in its duty. Sderot is under daily bombardment. How come Israel has not invaded Gaza and killed thousands of terrorists? Instead, they are allowing Jews to be fired at with impunity. In any other country, the government would have fallen  by now. Only in Israel can someone like Shimon Peres still show his face in public, much less be part of the governmemnt.
In any case, it is a chutzpah of chutzpahs for the paleos, who kill Jewish kids on purpose, to wail and beat their breasts when their own kids, whom they deliberately put in harm&#039;s way on purpose, hiding behind them like the filthy cowards they are, get killed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it is sad when children are killed in war. Israel should bow its collective head in silence for a moment or two, apologize for any &#8220;collatral damage&#8221; and then get on with bombing the terrorsts to Kingdom Come, come hell or high water.</p>
<p>The alternative to IDF action is dead Israeli kids rather than dead paleo kids. </p>
<p>Take your choice.</p>
<p>The reason this is still happening is not because Israel is responding too harshly, it is because it is not reponding harshly enough. The next time a Qassem is fired at Sderot, Israel should bomb all PA institutions flat, regardless of who is in them, specifically targeting the Hamas leadership. Forget all of these nickel-and-dime targeted &#8220;assassinations&#8221;. There&#8217;s a war on, and Israel is being derelict in its duty. Sderot is under daily bombardment. How come Israel has not invaded Gaza and killed thousands of terrorists? Instead, they are allowing Jews to be fired at with impunity. In any other country, the government would have fallen  by now. Only in Israel can someone like Shimon Peres still show his face in public, much less be part of the governmemnt.</p>
<p>In any case, it is a chutzpah of chutzpahs for the paleos, who kill Jewish kids on purpose, to wail and beat their breasts when their own kids, whom they deliberately put in harm&#8217;s way on purpose, hiding behind them like the filthy cowards they are, get killed.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben-David</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/06/20/1475/comment-page-1#comment-10188</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben-David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... and perhaps these &quot;collaterals&quot; were killed during the raging internecine Pali-on-Pali fighting that is going on - almost totally undocumented by the media.
Sorry folks - it&#039;s barely half a century since &quot;the greatest generation&quot; carpet-bombed Dresden and other German cities. The notion that wars can be conducted without any civilian casualties is just untenable.
We&#039;ve become
1)Spoiled by the restraint of the IDF, and the accuracy of the targeted techniques it pioneered.
2) Boxed in by our own pro-Israel arguments based on that restraint. Perversely, those arguments have been used by the Double Standard Gang to limit what is considered acceptable Israeli military action - to the point of unreal demands for complete, bloodless purity.
The time has come to defend ALL Israeli actions, and express sympathy - but not a smidgen of guilt, weariness, or defensiveness - at the collateral damage that does ensue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; and perhaps these &#8220;collaterals&#8221; were killed during the raging internecine Pali-on-Pali fighting that is going on &#8211; almost totally undocumented by the media.</p>
<p>Sorry folks &#8211; it&#8217;s barely half a century since &#8220;the greatest generation&#8221; carpet-bombed Dresden and other German cities. The notion that wars can be conducted without any civilian casualties is just untenable.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve become</p>
<p>1)Spoiled by the restraint of the IDF, and the accuracy of the targeted techniques it pioneered.</p>
<p>2) Boxed in by our own pro-Israel arguments based on that restraint. Perversely, those arguments have been used by the Double Standard Gang to limit what is considered acceptable Israeli military action &#8211; to the point of unreal demands for complete, bloodless purity.</p>
<p>The time has come to defend ALL Israeli actions, and express sympathy &#8211; but not a smidgen of guilt, weariness, or defensiveness &#8211; at the collateral damage that does ensue.</p>
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		<title>By: westbankmama</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/06/20/1475/comment-page-1#comment-10182</link>
		<dc:creator>westbankmama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 06:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meryl, this is very fishy. The IAF has  drones over Gaza taking real-time pictures - and they saw the car without civilians around it. After the bomb, suddenly there are civilians killed. Perhaps a mistake was made, and perhaps there were children in the car with the terrorists just for this purpose.
In any case, your justifiably uncomfortable reaction to the headlines is no justification for the IAF to stop what it is doing - because then OUR children will be killed by them. What&#039;s more important, your guilt, or saving lives?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meryl, this is very fishy. The IAF has  drones over Gaza taking real-time pictures &#8211; and they saw the car without civilians around it. After the bomb, suddenly there are civilians killed. Perhaps a mistake was made, and perhaps there were children in the car with the terrorists just for this purpose.</p>
<p>In any case, your justifiably uncomfortable reaction to the headlines is no justification for the IAF to stop what it is doing &#8211; because then OUR children will be killed by them. What&#8217;s more important, your guilt, or saving lives?</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Rosen</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/06/20/1475/comment-page-1#comment-10181</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Rosen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 06:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sympathize with your point of view, Meryl, because it is terrible when children are killed.  But while it may be the case that Israel didn&#039;t do all it could have to avoid civilian casualties, it may also be the case that the Palestinians did everything they could to cause those casulaties, especially since they just lost their big propaganda hit when HRW (surprisingly) admitted Israel might have been right in its investigation of the previous &quot;shelling the beach&quot; incident.  After all, these are people who send out retarded kids as suicide bombers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sympathize with your point of view, Meryl, because it is terrible when children are killed.  But while it may be the case that Israel didn&#8217;t do all it could have to avoid civilian casualties, it may also be the case that the Palestinians did everything they could to cause those casulaties, especially since they just lost their big propaganda hit when HRW (surprisingly) admitted Israel might have been right in its investigation of the previous &#8220;shelling the beach&#8221; incident.  After all, these are people who send out retarded kids as suicide bombers.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/06/20/1475/comment-page-1#comment-10179</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 05:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Merde!  Why don&#039;t you just pack it in and move to America.  Oh, sorry ... that&#039;s right, you already did that. If the palis want to pack kids in their car with terrorists for propaganda reasons then I wish the IDF would come up with missles that just left no remains to be identified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Merde!  Why don&#8217;t you just pack it in and move to America.  Oh, sorry &#8230; that&#8217;s right, you already did that. If the palis want to pack kids in their car with terrorists for propaganda reasons then I wish the IDF would come up with missles that just left no remains to be identified.</p>
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		<title>By: balabusta in blue jeans</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/06/20/1475/comment-page-1#comment-10176</link>
		<dc:creator>balabusta in blue jeans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 04:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, war is hell. That&#039;s not an excuse for doing it sloppily, or for letting evil done by others excuse one&#039;s own mistakes.
I worry when someone like Meryl, who clearly knows the situation well expresses sadness and criticism for an operation in which children were killed--not an intention to dismantle the IDF, mind, just sadness--and people immediately run in to disavow any &#039;emotional qualms&#039;.
I look at those names and ages, and I flinch too. I don&#039;t necessarily say that I wouldn&#039;t have ordered the strike, given the option. But I grieve for the children. War is hell. That truth should never be used to rationalize the deaths of children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, war is hell. That&#8217;s not an excuse for doing it sloppily, or for letting evil done by others excuse one&#8217;s own mistakes.</p>
<p>I worry when someone like Meryl, who clearly knows the situation well expresses sadness and criticism for an operation in which children were killed&#8211;not an intention to dismantle the IDF, mind, just sadness&#8211;and people immediately run in to disavow any &#8216;emotional qualms&#8217;.</p>
<p>I look at those names and ages, and I flinch too. I don&#8217;t necessarily say that I wouldn&#8217;t have ordered the strike, given the option. But I grieve for the children. War is hell. That truth should never be used to rationalize the deaths of children.</p>
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