Comments on: The tragedy on the Gaza beach

By: A Blog For All

A Blog For All — Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:51:32 +0000

Back to the Beach…

Human Rights Watch can’t contradict the IDF investigation into the Gaza beach incident where a number of civilians were killed in an explosion. The IDF found that it could not have been caused by an artillery shell fired from any of its forces. While….

By: The Moderate Voice

The Moderate Voice — Tue, 20 Jun 2006 08:39:14 +0000

IDF Findings Confirmed…

HRW: we can’t contradict IDF findings

While sticking to its demand for the establishment of an independent inquiry int……

By: SnoopyTheGoon

SnoopyTheGoon — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 17:13:05 +0000

Let’s just say, Ben, that “in the hope” does not reflect the IDF hopes. Suffice to agree that Gazans have had a chance and they blew it.

Re the weed – let me have the postal address and I shall take care of the rest ;-)

By: Ben F

Ben F — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 13:02:37 +0000

Gaza was vacated by IDF in the hope that, as a model of a newly hatched independent Palestinian society it will be also a model of the neighborhood relationships and peaceful co-existence of the two states.

That must be some powerful weed you’re smoking.

Views differ as to the “true” rationale for disengagement from Gaza, but I don’t think that anyone involved entertained the serious hope that this would germinate into peaceful coexistence. That kind of claptrap was coming from the Quartet, which wanted to frame disengagement as a means for rejuvenating the Roadmap. PM Sharon made crystal clear that it was undertaken in response to and recognition of the failure of the Roadmap.

Surrendering control of the Gaza-Egypt border was not Israel’s preference; Foggy Bottom forced Sharon into it, and now more arms have poured into Gaza over that boundary than were smuggled from 1967 through 2005. This was not unforeseen by the IDF.

By: SnoopyTheGoon

SnoopyTheGoon — Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:16:11 +0000

Yes, Ralph, I have already read the article you mention. However, is IDF right or not is not the main issue of my post.

And, of course, I will be happy if IDF is exonerated.

By: Woland

Woland — Sun, 18 Jun 2006 15:08:56 +0000

In my personal experience in relations between the army and the press, I can say that I have much greater level of trust to the army.

I was aware of 3 army related incidents, where the press, intentionally or not, have corrupted the truth, giving out a totally different picture.

A perfect example is Carmella Menashe. When you get to read something about the army by her hand, expect for less than 50% to be true.

By: Ralf Goergens

Ralf Goergens — Sun, 18 Jun 2006 14:48:48 +0000

As it happens there now is serious doubt that the IDF had anything to do with those deaths: German paper doubts Gaza beach reports The article at ynet refers to this article from the SÃ¼ddeutsche Zeitung: Der Krieg der Bilder ('The war of the images', in English). The German article contains what ynet claims, and also makes a reference to 'Pallywood' and mentions the numerous previous hoaxes by the Palestinans.