Comments on: The spin begins: Media credulous on IDF report http://www.yourish.com/2006/06/13/1425 Cutting straight to the point Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:21:52 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: brooklynsax http://www.yourish.com/2006/06/13/1425/comment-page-1#comment-9885 brooklynsax Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:14:39 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/06/13/1425#comment-9885 Man, it's not linking correctly. OK, click on the link, and then look at the resule that says "Raising Raffa." Man, it’s not linking correctly.

OK, click on the link, and then look at the resule that says “Raising Raffa.”

]]> By: brooklynsax http://www.yourish.com/2006/06/13/1425/comment-page-1#comment-9884 brooklynsax Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:13:43 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/06/13/1425#comment-9884 <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=Marc+Garlasco+Jenin&hl=en&lr=&start=10&sa=N" rel="nofollow">Here is the correct link</a>. Sorry. Here is the correct link.

Sorry.

]]> By: brooklynsax http://www.yourish.com/2006/06/13/1425/comment-page-1#comment-9883 brooklynsax Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:12:19 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/06/13/1425#comment-9883 It appears the Human Rights Watch "investigation" is helmed by Marc Garlasco, who also wrote a <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=Marc+Garlasco+Jenin&hl=en&lr=&start=10&sa=N" rel="nofollow">piece of anti-Israel propaganda that quotes from "new historians"</a>, etc, and claims Israel engaged in ethnic cleansing during the 1948 war. It appears the Human Rights Watch “investigation” is helmed by Marc Garlasco, who also wrote a piece of anti-Israel propaganda that quotes from “new historians”, etc, and claims Israel engaged in ethnic cleansing during the 1948 war.

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.yourish.com/2006/06/13/1425/comment-page-1#comment-9881 Jonathan Tue, 13 Jun 2006 17:42:22 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/06/13/1425#comment-9881 On CNN, the reporter handling this story repeatedly mentioned that Human Rights Watch has taken the Palestinians' part in this matter--they find the IDF report "unconvincing." Of course, HRW has a long, ugly history of Israel-bashing, as most of us know--but to the general public, who assume that any group concerned with "human rights" holds the moral high ground, HRW's criticism of Israel will be accepted as justified. These "humanitarian" NGOs are, intentionally or not, breeding anti-zionism and anti-semitism. Screw them. On CNN, the reporter handling this story repeatedly mentioned that Human Rights Watch has taken the Palestinians’ part in this matter–they find the IDF report “unconvincing.” Of course, HRW has a long, ugly history of Israel-bashing, as most of us know–but to the general public, who assume that any group concerned with “human rights” holds the moral high ground, HRW’s criticism of Israel will be accepted as justified. These “humanitarian” NGOs are, intentionally or not, breeding anti-zionism and anti-semitism. Screw them.

]]> By: Solomonia http://www.yourish.com/2006/06/13/1425/comment-page-1#comment-9879 Solomonia Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:43:44 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/06/13/1425#comment-9879 <strong>Unraveling the images on the Gaza beach...</strong> The Washington Post has actually picked up an AP story on the Gaza Beach incident that presents the Israeli side in a non-skeptical manner, and actually includes context for Israeli shelling in general (unlike most of the early reports that...... Unraveling the images on the Gaza beach…

The Washington Post has actually picked up an AP story on the Gaza Beach incident that presents the Israeli side in a non-skeptical manner, and actually includes context for Israeli shelling in general (unlike most of the early reports that……

]]> By: brooklynsax http://www.yourish.com/2006/06/13/1425/comment-page-1#comment-9876 brooklynsax Tue, 13 Jun 2006 15:54:38 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/06/13/1425#comment-9876 Meryl: I share your justified cynicism, but the fallout is not nearly as bad as it could have been. The international press is sick, but let's face it: the Israelis have been awful PR managers. Bloggers, Camera, and Honest Reporting have been virutally on their own, while the Israeli politicians and generals have consitently sucked at countering the negative spin. There is no excuse at this point, given their superior technological ability via drones, cameras, etc, the expected hostility of world reaction, and Israel's familiarity with the Arab propaganda machine - for them accepting ANY BLAME before investigating the facts. And for so long, the Israelis have operated under the attitude, "Well, our image isn't even worth defending because everyone hates us anyway." The problem really jumped out at me last year when the IDF refused to release a video proving that a Palestinian kid had been shot by Palestinians (not al-Dura, a different one) - even a Ha'aretz writer who reported the decision seemed incredulous. Now, it looks like they are finally learning. They are going to release a report less than a week after the event. That's much better than the months - even years, it took them to get information out about al-Durah. Sure the press will still suck, but at least Israel is going to be a contender. Next time they won't apologize at all before they investigate. It's a step in the right direction. Meryl:

I share your justified cynicism, but the fallout is not nearly as bad as it could have been. The international press is sick, but let’s face it: the Israelis have been awful PR managers. Bloggers, Camera, and Honest Reporting have been virutally on their own, while the Israeli politicians and generals have consitently sucked at countering the negative spin. There is no excuse at this point, given their superior technological ability via drones, cameras, etc, the expected hostility of world reaction, and Israel’s familiarity with the Arab propaganda machine – for them accepting ANY BLAME before investigating the facts. And for so long, the Israelis have operated under the attitude, “Well, our image isn’t even worth defending because everyone hates us anyway.”

The problem really jumped out at me last year when the IDF refused to release a video proving that a Palestinian kid had been shot by Palestinians (not al-Dura, a different one) – even a Ha’aretz writer who reported the decision seemed incredulous.

Now, it looks like they are finally learning. They are going to release a report less than a week after the event. That’s much better than the months – even years, it took them to get information out about al-Durah.

Sure the press will still suck, but at least Israel is going to be a contender.

Next time they won’t apologize at all before they investigate.

It’s a step in the right direction.

]]> By: Ben F http://www.yourish.com/2006/06/13/1425/comment-page-1#comment-9871 Ben F Tue, 13 Jun 2006 14:11:52 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/06/13/1425#comment-9871 Maybe a <em>mea culpa</em>, but certainly no apology. Wait for the repetition in the next news cycle. Civilians and medics were killed by a secondary explosion after the IDF hit a katyusha-filled van. Will Israel be blamed for the deaths from the secondary explosion, or will the media blame Palestinian Islamic Jihad? Three guesses, and the first two don't count. Maybe a mea culpa, but certainly no apology.

Wait for the repetition in the next news cycle. Civilians and medics were killed by a secondary explosion after the IDF hit a katyusha-filled van. Will Israel be blamed for the deaths from the secondary explosion, or will the media blame Palestinian Islamic Jihad?

Three guesses, and the first two don’t count.

]]> By: Laurence Simon http://www.yourish.com/2006/06/13/1425/comment-page-1#comment-9869 Laurence Simon Tue, 13 Jun 2006 13:52:08 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/06/13/1425#comment-9869 Time for a curse: May all those in the media who rush to stick up for the morally bankrupt Palestinians suffer the same fate as Tom Hurdnall. Time for a curse: May all those in the media who rush to stick up for the morally bankrupt Palestinians suffer the same fate as Tom Hurdnall.

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