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	<title>Comments on: How Israel got the bomb</title>
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		<title>By: Michael Lonie</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/05/01/1168/comment-page-1#comment-4948</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Lonie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2006 03:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>L&#039;il Mamzer,
With the exception of the USA, yes.
The authors of that article must be idiots.  They talk about Iran rightfully pursuing a civilian nuclear program.  The Iranian government occasionally says its program is for civilian purposes, whereupon its spokesliar&#039;s nose grows perceptibly longer.  Since the big bosses in Iran have been talking for years about using a nuke to destroy Israel it&#039;s evidence that people are not actually paying attention to what is really going on if they think that the Iranian program is peaceful.
They did, inadvertently, get one thing right.  There is nothing that anyone can offer Iran that will stop their bomb project.  No carrot will attract them, no UN resolutions impress them, no colander-like UN sanctions will stop them from pursuing their goal of a nuke arsenal.  This is their ticket to the Big Boy&#039;s Table, to Great Power status.  For this they have impoverished their country.  The Pharaohs of Teheran will not deflect themselves from gaining their heart&#039;s desire of nukes, for that means they can unleash the wars of genocide and imperial conquest that they want.  Once they have nukes they can run wild, and (they think) everybody will be too frightened of them to try to stop them.  Given the pusillanimity of the Euros and the UN, and the willingness of the Russians and Chinese to sell them the rope to hang the last infidel, they certainly have plenty of reason to think that.  They will keep pushing until they unleash a nuclear war, then it will be too damn late for everybody, especially the Iranian people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>L&#8217;il Mamzer,<br />
With the exception of the USA, yes.</p>
<p>The authors of that article must be idiots.  They talk about Iran rightfully pursuing a civilian nuclear program.  The Iranian government occasionally says its program is for civilian purposes, whereupon its spokesliar&#8217;s nose grows perceptibly longer.  Since the big bosses in Iran have been talking for years about using a nuke to destroy Israel it&#8217;s evidence that people are not actually paying attention to what is really going on if they think that the Iranian program is peaceful.</p>
<p>They did, inadvertently, get one thing right.  There is nothing that anyone can offer Iran that will stop their bomb project.  No carrot will attract them, no UN resolutions impress them, no colander-like UN sanctions will stop them from pursuing their goal of a nuke arsenal.  This is their ticket to the Big Boy&#8217;s Table, to Great Power status.  For this they have impoverished their country.  The Pharaohs of Teheran will not deflect themselves from gaining their heart&#8217;s desire of nukes, for that means they can unleash the wars of genocide and imperial conquest that they want.  Once they have nukes they can run wild, and (they think) everybody will be too frightened of them to try to stop them.  Given the pusillanimity of the Euros and the UN, and the willingness of the Russians and Chinese to sell them the rope to hang the last infidel, they certainly have plenty of reason to think that.  They will keep pushing until they unleash a nuclear war, then it will be too damn late for everybody, especially the Iranian people.</p>
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		<title>By: Li'l Mamzer</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/05/01/1168/comment-page-1#comment-4946</link>
		<dc:creator>Li'l Mamzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2006 00:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, Meryl.
Consider this quote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;The Nixon-Meir deal of 1969 is now a striking and burdensome anomaly. Not only is Israelâ€™s nuclear posture of taboo and total secrecy anachronistic, it is inconsistent with, and costly to, the tenets of modern liberal democracy.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Burdensome? Certainly not for Israel. Considering Israel&#039;s many burdens, domestic, foreign, social and military, the &#039;debate&#039; about Israel&#039;s nuclear deterrent is hardly a burden for Israel, but for those who would see Israel rendered defenseless or, at the very least, at a qualitative military disadvantage (again) against the Arabs.
And then there&#039;s the &#039;modern liberal democracy&#039; card. When the UK and France find themselves with an array of genocidal Arabs on all sides, then we can address that plum. And is that what modern liberal democracies do to other modern, liberal democracies - sell them out just like that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post, Meryl.</p>
<p>Consider this quote:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Nixon-Meir deal of 1969 is now a striking and burdensome anomaly. Not only is Israelâ€™s nuclear posture of taboo and total secrecy anachronistic, it is inconsistent with, and costly to, the tenets of modern liberal democracy.</p></blockquote>
<p>Burdensome? Certainly not for Israel. Considering Israel&#8217;s many burdens, domestic, foreign, social and military, the &#8216;debate&#8217; about Israel&#8217;s nuclear deterrent is hardly a burden for Israel, but for those who would see Israel rendered defenseless or, at the very least, at a qualitative military disadvantage (again) against the Arabs.</p>
<p>And then there&#8217;s the &#8216;modern liberal democracy&#8217; card. When the UK and France find themselves with an array of genocidal Arabs on all sides, then we can address that plum. And is that what modern liberal democracies do to other modern, liberal democracies &#8211; sell them out just like that?</p>
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		<title>By: Li'l Mamzer</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/05/01/1168/comment-page-1#comment-4938</link>
		<dc:creator>Li'l Mamzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 21:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Either way Israel keeps her nukes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Either way Israel keeps her nukes.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve White</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2006/05/01/1168/comment-page-1#comment-4935</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 18:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonder if the world would accept Israel signing the NPT as a &lt;em&gt;nuclear&lt;/em&gt; power? That would entitle Israel to keep its nuclear weapons on the same level as the French. Heh, there&#039;s a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonder if the world would accept Israel signing the NPT as a <em>nuclear</em> power? That would entitle Israel to keep its nuclear weapons on the same level as the French. Heh, there&#8217;s a thought.</p>
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