Comments on: The New York Times: It’s Sharon’s fault, too http://www.yourish.com/2006/01/27/654 Cutting straight to the point Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:07:42 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Sabba Hillel http://www.yourish.com/2006/01/27/654/comment-page-1#comment-2212 Sabba Hillel Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:34:29 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/01/27/654#comment-2212 That was tried in 1967 and 1973. The world (and the Israeli left) insisted on the Oslo fake and on putting Arafat in power which led to today's circumstances. That was tried in 1967 and 1973. The world (and the Israeli left) insisted on the Oslo fake and on putting Arafat in power which led to today’s circumstances.

]]> By: Walter E. Wallis http://www.yourish.com/2006/01/27/654/comment-page-1#comment-2209 Walter E. Wallis Sat, 28 Jan 2006 23:15:03 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/01/27/654#comment-2209 Warn them that one more bombing and war goes hot, with permanent land loss for the loser. The Gaza and the West Bank will do for starters, then the Negev up tp the Canal. Warn them that one more bombing and war goes hot, with permanent land loss for the loser. The Gaza and the West Bank will do for starters, then the Negev up tp the Canal.

]]> By: Tel-Chai Nation http://www.yourish.com/2006/01/27/654/comment-page-1#comment-2208 Tel-Chai Nation Sat, 28 Jan 2006 22:39:49 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/01/27/654#comment-2208 <strong>Iranian dictator meets with Hamas leaders in Dam..</strong> IRIS Blog discovers that Ahmadinejad, the dictator of Iran, has met with Hamas leaders in Damascus. Iranian dictator meets with Hamas leaders in Dam..

IRIS Blog discovers that Ahmadinejad, the dictator of Iran, has met with Hamas leaders in Damascus.

]]> By: Michael Lonie http://www.yourish.com/2006/01/27/654/comment-page-1#comment-2199 Michael Lonie Sat, 28 Jan 2006 05:51:43 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/01/27/654#comment-2199 They won't have to have slight hints. Western media and diplomats will make up fantasy indications of Hamas mellowing out of the whole cloth. Offhand the only terrorist outfit I can think of that really did mellow into a peaceful member of a democratic system was Begin's Irgun. Uniquely among anti-colonialist movements, the world never forgave Begin for his past, the only such case (think of Kenyatta, Mandela and lots of other Third World leaders who started as terrorists and ended so admired by the fine souls, after they got power at any rate). But Begin and his followers really did become democratic. That's a precedent Hamas is sure to reject. Alex hits the nail on the head. Admittedly the choice between the corrupt Fatah and the murderous Hamas was not a rosy one for a hypothetical sane Palestinian Arab, if such exist. But I suspect they'd have gone for Hamas even if Fatah had been clean as a hound's tooth. The Palestinians will always choose those who want more openly to kill Jews over their own good. Fatah's strategy of dissimulation combined with deniable terrorism was too subtle for their tastes. They won’t have to have slight hints. Western media and diplomats will make up fantasy indications of Hamas mellowing out of the whole cloth. Offhand the only terrorist outfit I can think of that really did mellow into a peaceful member of a democratic system was Begin’s Irgun. Uniquely among anti-colonialist movements, the world never forgave Begin for his past, the only such case (think of Kenyatta, Mandela and lots of other Third World leaders who started as terrorists and ended so admired by the fine souls, after they got power at any rate). But Begin and his followers really did become democratic. That’s a precedent Hamas is sure to reject.

Alex hits the nail on the head. Admittedly the choice between the corrupt Fatah and the murderous Hamas was not a rosy one for a hypothetical sane Palestinian Arab, if such exist. But I suspect they’d have gone for Hamas even if Fatah had been clean as a hound’s tooth. The Palestinians will always choose those who want more openly to kill Jews over their own good. Fatah’s strategy of dissimulation combined with deniable terrorism was too subtle for their tastes.

]]> By: Alex Bensky http://www.yourish.com/2006/01/27/654/comment-page-1#comment-2195 Alex Bensky Sat, 28 Jan 2006 00:39:45 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/01/27/654#comment-2195 This is an old line: when X terrorist group has to deal with quotidian tasks like garbage collection they'll moderate their stance, which is rhetorical anyway. It doesn't happen and that's no surprise, since the opporessor--in this case Israel--serves as an excellent scapegoat for the problems with garbage collection and everything else. Yet again, and always, Israel serves as a convenient distraction. But the Arab leaders aren't solely at fault. The Arab masses eat it up, as happy as their rulers to have someone to blame for their problems. However, the slightest hint from anyone connected with Hamas that they might ease their aim of destroying Israel will be seized upon by Western media and diplomats as a reason to shove the blame for the impasse on Israel. See if this doesn't happen. This is an old line: when X terrorist group has to deal with quotidian tasks like garbage collection they’ll moderate their stance, which is rhetorical anyway.

It doesn’t happen and that’s no surprise, since the opporessor–in this case Israel–serves as an excellent scapegoat for the problems with garbage collection and everything else. Yet again, and always, Israel serves as a convenient distraction.

But the Arab leaders aren’t solely at fault. The Arab masses eat it up, as happy as their rulers to have someone to blame for their problems. However, the slightest hint from anyone connected with Hamas that they might ease their aim of destroying Israel will be seized upon by Western media and diplomats as a reason to shove the blame for the impasse on Israel. See if this doesn’t happen.

]]> By: Soccer Dad http://www.yourish.com/2006/01/27/654/comment-page-1#comment-2186 Soccer Dad Fri, 27 Jan 2006 19:13:31 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/01/27/654#comment-2186 <strong>Not enough or too much?</strong> Meryl Yourish and Mediacrity have already had a go at today's utterly offensive NT Times editorial "In the Mideast, a Giant Step Back." It seems that Gail Collins and company can't avoid apportioning some of the blame on Hamas's electoral... Not enough or too much?

Meryl Yourish and Mediacrity have already had a go at today’s utterly offensive NT Times editorial “In the Mideast, a Giant Step Back.” It seems that Gail Collins and company can’t avoid apportioning some of the blame on Hamas’s electoral…

]]> By: Israpundit http://www.yourish.com/2006/01/27/654/comment-page-1#comment-2185 Israpundit Fri, 27 Jan 2006 19:12:02 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/01/27/654#comment-2185 <strong>Not enough or too much?</strong> It's possible that Israel helped Hamas, but not the way the New York Times thinks.... Not enough or too much?

It’s possible that Israel helped Hamas, but not the way the New York Times thinks….

]]> By: SnoopyTheGoon http://www.yourish.com/2006/01/27/654/comment-page-1#comment-2177 SnoopyTheGoon Fri, 27 Jan 2006 15:00:44 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/2006/01/27/654#comment-2177 Aha! That, at least, comes as expected. No surprises with NYT! I wonder, though, for how long they will continue to blame Arik? Aha! That, at least, comes as expected. No surprises with NYT!

I wonder, though, for how long they will continue to blame Arik?

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