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		<title>By: 6PointsOut</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2005/12/18/456/comment-page-1#comment-1419</link>
		<dc:creator>6PointsOut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 14:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shalom! I, too, hope you don&#039;t turn cynical. With all due respect, though - imagine a man holding a hammer. Having struck himself on the kneecap with it several times, the man is now stretched out and bleeding, but he still clutches the hammer.

Is the man &quot;cynical&quot; if he believes that delivering further hammer blows will cause harm? Am I cynical, given the history, to believe that the EU will not truly ever support a Jewish state, or even truly and justly recognize its right to exist?

Yes, may the cynics like me be wrong; the world would surely benefit from the EU developing a moral backbone. May we all also be prepared in case the cynics are right.

Am Yisrael Chai!
6PO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shalom! I, too, hope you don&#8217;t turn cynical. With all due respect, though &#8211; imagine a man holding a hammer. Having struck himself on the kneecap with it several times, the man is now stretched out and bleeding, but he still clutches the hammer.</p>
<p>Is the man &#8220;cynical&#8221; if he believes that delivering further hammer blows will cause harm? Am I cynical, given the history, to believe that the EU will not truly ever support a Jewish state, or even truly and justly recognize its right to exist?</p>
<p>Yes, may the cynics like me be wrong; the world would surely benefit from the EU developing a moral backbone. May we all also be prepared in case the cynics are right.</p>
<p>Am Yisrael Chai!<br />
6PO</p>
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		<title>By: Cynic</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2005/12/18/456/comment-page-1#comment-1416</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 13:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The EU was trying to establish diplomatic relations with Hamas and Hezbollah on the sly.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
and the Presbyterians pay them regular visits in Beirut to discuss their proposed boycott of commerce with Israel.
Then we get this news:
&lt;blockquote&gt;A group linked to terrorist organization Hezbollah has cloned the cellphones of Rogers Communications executives, including that of CEO Ted Rogers, The Globe and Mail reported Saturday.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/009454.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Canada: Hizballah clones cellphones of corporation execs&lt;/a&gt;

Obviously one cannot accept that it is just confined to Canada not even with Presbyterian dhimmitude so maybe that&#039;s why the NSA is spying on, gulp, Americans. Nah, it&#039;s just part of the silly ,oops &lt;strike&gt;holiday&lt;/strike&gt; Christnukah season, when rednecks and evangelists try to frighten the good upstanding multiculti Dems and NYT and the Europeans threaten sanctions.

I thought that those pilgrims who founded the North American states fled the European madness, but obviously not with complete success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The EU was trying to establish diplomatic relations with Hamas and Hezbollah on the sly.</p></blockquote>
<p>and the Presbyterians pay them regular visits in Beirut to discuss their proposed boycott of commerce with Israel.<br />
Then we get this news:</p>
<blockquote><p>A group linked to terrorist organization Hezbollah has cloned the cellphones of Rogers Communications executives, including that of CEO Ted Rogers, The Globe and Mail reported Saturday.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/009454.php" rel="nofollow">Canada: Hizballah clones cellphones of corporation execs</a></p>
<p>Obviously one cannot accept that it is just confined to Canada not even with Presbyterian dhimmitude so maybe that&#8217;s why the NSA is spying on, gulp, Americans. Nah, it&#8217;s just part of the silly ,oops <strike>holiday</strike> Christnukah season, when rednecks and evangelists try to frighten the good upstanding multiculti Dems and NYT and the Europeans threaten sanctions.</p>
<p>I thought that those pilgrims who founded the North American states fled the European madness, but obviously not with complete success.</p>
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		<title>By: Soccer Dad</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2005/12/18/456/comment-page-1#comment-1413</link>
		<dc:creator>Soccer Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 06:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Hamas, a kennedy school of government affiliate&lt;/strong&gt;

Mediacrity takes a well deserved swipe at the NY Times for &quot;Sanitizing Hamas&quot;:While tastefully omitting any mention of suicide bombings, the Times&#039;s Greg Myre turned over the podium to a Hamas &quot;spokesman,&quot; who ranted that the election &quot;shows that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Hamas, a kennedy school of government affiliate</strong></p>
<p>Mediacrity takes a well deserved swipe at the NY Times for &#8220;Sanitizing Hamas&#8221;:While tastefully omitting any mention of suicide bombings, the Times&#8217;s Greg Myre turned over the podium to a Hamas &#8220;spokesman,&#8221; who ranted that the election &#8220;shows that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ben F</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2005/12/18/456/comment-page-1#comment-1410</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2005 23:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that Russ has the correct reading here. There is no principled basis to deal with FATAH but not HAMAS. Both believe in armed struggle to liberate the land from &quot;the occupiers.&quot; The only difference is that FATAH fights primarily under the banner of Arab nationalism and HAMAS fights under the banner of Islam. 

The EU supports the &quot;rights of the Palestinian people.&quot; It, like the rest of the world (Israeli governments included) has abandoned the concept of &quot;two Palestinian nations,&quot; Arab and Jewish, recognized in the UN&#039;s 1947 Partition Plan. The only &quot;Palestinians&quot; that the EU recognizes are the ones that seek to delegitimize the Palestinian Jews.

The optimist says that we live in the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist agrees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that Russ has the correct reading here. There is no principled basis to deal with FATAH but not HAMAS. Both believe in armed struggle to liberate the land from &#8220;the occupiers.&#8221; The only difference is that FATAH fights primarily under the banner of Arab nationalism and HAMAS fights under the banner of Islam. </p>
<p>The EU supports the &#8220;rights of the Palestinian people.&#8221; It, like the rest of the world (Israeli governments included) has abandoned the concept of &#8220;two Palestinian nations,&#8221; Arab and Jewish, recognized in the UN&#8217;s 1947 Partition Plan. The only &#8220;Palestinians&#8221; that the EU recognizes are the ones that seek to delegitimize the Palestinian Jews.</p>
<p>The optimist says that we live in the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist agrees.</p>
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		<title>By: Daled Amos</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2005/12/18/456/comment-page-1#comment-1407</link>
		<dc:creator>Daled Amos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2005 22:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Palestinian Playtime&lt;/strong&gt;

The European Union, the biggest donor to the Palestinian Authority, also says it might curb aid to the PA - if Hamas wins the election next month. &quot;It is very difficult that parties that do not condemn violence ... without changing those positions can...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Palestinian Playtime</strong></p>
<p>The European Union, the biggest donor to the Palestinian Authority, also says it might curb aid to the PA &#8211; if Hamas wins the election next month. &#8220;It is very difficult that parties that do not condemn violence &#8230; without changing those positions can&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Laurence Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2005/12/18/456/comment-page-1#comment-1406</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurence Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2005 20:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The EU was trying to establish diplomatic relations with Hamas and Hezbollah on the sly.

A few dead EU terror-facilitators at Rafah might wake them up a bit.

I feel badly for their families, being related to traitors to civilization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The EU was trying to establish diplomatic relations with Hamas and Hezbollah on the sly.</p>
<p>A few dead EU terror-facilitators at Rafah might wake them up a bit.</p>
<p>I feel badly for their families, being related to traitors to civilization.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Lonie</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2005/12/18/456/comment-page-1#comment-1405</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Lonie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2005 19:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If people wanted to stop the killing the best immediate thing they could do is stop all money flows to the Palestinians.  If the Palestinian Authority had to depend on its people earning a living instead of existing on the world&#039;s handouts they&#039;d not have time for terrorism.

My guess is that Hamas will field a &quot;political wing&quot; that will renounce violence (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) while the real Hamas continues its merry, murderous way thinly cloaked as a clandestine organization.  This will satisify the EUnuchs, and all will go on as before.  That will include ever more vicious denunciations of Israel for retaliations against the terrorism, when &quot;everybody knows&quot; that Hamas has &quot;renounced terrorism&quot;.

I&#039;ll be very pleased to be proved wrong, but I&#039;m not going to hold my breath waiting for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If people wanted to stop the killing the best immediate thing they could do is stop all money flows to the Palestinians.  If the Palestinian Authority had to depend on its people earning a living instead of existing on the world&#8217;s handouts they&#8217;d not have time for terrorism.</p>
<p>My guess is that Hamas will field a &#8220;political wing&#8221; that will renounce violence (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) while the real Hamas continues its merry, murderous way thinly cloaked as a clandestine organization.  This will satisify the EUnuchs, and all will go on as before.  That will include ever more vicious denunciations of Israel for retaliations against the terrorism, when &#8220;everybody knows&#8221; that Hamas has &#8220;renounced terrorism&#8221;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be very pleased to be proved wrong, but I&#8217;m not going to hold my breath waiting for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2005/12/18/456/comment-page-1#comment-1404</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2005 17:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;turn&lt;/em&gt; cynical? My initial reaction was that they omitted part of the statement, &quot;It would be very difficult for the help and the money that goes to the Palestinian Authority to continue to flow, &lt;i&gt;but we are up to the challenge...&lt;/i&gt;&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>turn</em> cynical? My initial reaction was that they omitted part of the statement, &#8220;It would be very difficult for the help and the money that goes to the Palestinian Authority to continue to flow, <i>but we are up to the challenge&#8230;</i>&#8220;</p>
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