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	<title>Comments on: Yossi Klein Halevi&#8217;s waste of breath</title>
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		<title>By: Ben F</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2005/09/29/139/comment-page-1#comment-383</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 06:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;two Yossis&quot; of the Israeli left are Beilin and Sarid. IMO Halevi has been a very solid commentator for a long while. He has been one of the Israelis who has gotten to know the &quot;Palestinians&quot; well enough to understand that even the &quot;moderates&quot; do not intend to reconcile with Zionism. Ever.

To the extent that I have a beef with him, it&#039;s that he seems to view Israel&#039;s recognition of Palestinian peoplehood as both proper and irreversible. He doesn&#039;t connect the dots--Nasser Youssef repudiates Palestinian peoplehood when he envisions Israel and Palestine &quot;federating&quot; with Jordan, and Syria, and Iraq. 

Palestinian &quot;peoplehood&quot; is part and parcel of the culture of denial that Haleve properly decries. It&#039;s both a lie and a weapon that is wielded by the Arabs in their unending war against the Jewish state. To the extent that there is a unique Palestinian identity, it is that the Palestinians &lt;i&gt;personify&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;embody&lt;/i&gt; Arab anti-Zionism. 

Either Halevi doesnt see this or he&#039;s too much of a dhimmi to say it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;two Yossis&#8221; of the Israeli left are Beilin and Sarid. IMO Halevi has been a very solid commentator for a long while. He has been one of the Israelis who has gotten to know the &#8220;Palestinians&#8221; well enough to understand that even the &#8220;moderates&#8221; do not intend to reconcile with Zionism. Ever.</p>
<p>To the extent that I have a beef with him, it&#8217;s that he seems to view Israel&#8217;s recognition of Palestinian peoplehood as both proper and irreversible. He doesn&#8217;t connect the dots&#8211;Nasser Youssef repudiates Palestinian peoplehood when he envisions Israel and Palestine &#8220;federating&#8221; with Jordan, and Syria, and Iraq. </p>
<p>Palestinian &#8220;peoplehood&#8221; is part and parcel of the culture of denial that Haleve properly decries. It&#8217;s both a lie and a weapon that is wielded by the Arabs in their unending war against the Jewish state. To the extent that there is a unique Palestinian identity, it is that the Palestinians <i>personify</i> and <i>embody</i> Arab anti-Zionism. </p>
<p>Either Halevi doesnt see this or he&#8217;s too much of a dhimmi to say it.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2005/09/29/139/comment-page-1#comment-380</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 03:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, does this mean that the Arab Arabs LOL, G-d what a name, were hunted down and murdered during the holocaust?  And if so...how many?  G-d this claptrap is just infuriating...there is NO way in G-ds green earth that I would ever use the adjective of Arab to describe me....that is an absolute insult!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, does this mean that the Arab Arabs LOL, G-d what a name, were hunted down and murdered during the holocaust?  And if so&#8230;how many?  G-d this claptrap is just infuriating&#8230;there is NO way in G-ds green earth that I would ever use the adjective of Arab to describe me&#8230;.that is an absolute insult!</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2005/09/29/139/comment-page-1#comment-376</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes you are mistaking Yossi Klein Halevi with the useful idiot Yossi Beilin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes you are mistaking Yossi Klein Halevi with the useful idiot Yossi Beilin.</p>
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		<title>By: Sabba Hillel</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2005/09/29/139/comment-page-1#comment-372</link>
		<dc:creator>Sabba Hillel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 15:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http:/http://www.lukeford.net/profiles/profiles/yossi_halevi.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;/www.lukeford.net/profiles/profiles/yossi_halevi.htm&lt;/a&gt; has this quote from a speech of his in a blog entry dated 13 Nov. 2004

&lt;blockquote&gt;Yassir Arafat has been indispensable for not only the Palestinians but for us...in telling us our place in the world. He&#039;s been a shadow prime minister of Israel for 40 years. 
Arafat made clear to us that our great victory in 1967 would not lead to lasting peace.
Following the Yom Kippur war, Arafat started the deligitimization of Israel that is culminating now, two decades later. 
In some sense, Arafat&#039;s greatest offense against Israel happened in the 1990s when he toyed with our deepest longings and seemed to offer us legitimacy, which we so desperately craved.
If Arafat is hated universally [in Israel] from left to right, Yossi Beilin said he would not go to his funeral...
Arafat represented the post-Holocaust legitimization of the murder of Jews and the delegitimization of the Jewish state. 

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

He also comments

&lt;blockquote&gt;Yossi supports Ariel Sharon. He says Sharon&#039;s approach to Israel&#039;s security is supported by at least 70% of the Israel public (support levels that no other Israeli politician could match). Yossi supports Israel&#039;s unilateral withdrawal from Gaza and the construction of a fence to keep terrorists. The fence would mean that Israel is going to retain sovereignty over greater Jerusalem. It means that every time Israel has offered the Palestinians an opportunity for a negotiated settlement (since 1947) and the Palestinians have spurned these overtures, the Palestinians are steadily being offered less and less.
Yossi says that only Israel&#039;s hawks can fulfill the vision of its doves. The left was right that Israel can&#039;t continue to occupy. The left was wrong in thinking that Israel could negotiate peace with the Palestinian leadership.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http:/http://www.lukeford.net/profiles/profiles/yossi_halevi.htm" rel="nofollow">/www.lukeford.net/profiles/profiles/yossi_halevi.htm</a> has this quote from a speech of his in a blog entry dated 13 Nov. 2004</p>
<blockquote><p>Yassir Arafat has been indispensable for not only the Palestinians but for us&#8230;in telling us our place in the world. He&#8217;s been a shadow prime minister of Israel for 40 years.<br />
Arafat made clear to us that our great victory in 1967 would not lead to lasting peace.<br />
Following the Yom Kippur war, Arafat started the deligitimization of Israel that is culminating now, two decades later.<br />
In some sense, Arafat&#8217;s greatest offense against Israel happened in the 1990s when he toyed with our deepest longings and seemed to offer us legitimacy, which we so desperately craved.<br />
If Arafat is hated universally [in Israel] from left to right, Yossi Beilin said he would not go to his funeral&#8230;<br />
Arafat represented the post-Holocaust legitimization of the murder of Jews and the delegitimization of the Jewish state. </p>
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<p>He also comments</p>
<blockquote><p>Yossi supports Ariel Sharon. He says Sharon&#8217;s approach to Israel&#8217;s security is supported by at least 70% of the Israel public (support levels that no other Israeli politician could match). Yossi supports Israel&#8217;s unilateral withdrawal from Gaza and the construction of a fence to keep terrorists. The fence would mean that Israel is going to retain sovereignty over greater Jerusalem. It means that every time Israel has offered the Palestinians an opportunity for a negotiated settlement (since 1947) and the Palestinians have spurned these overtures, the Palestinians are steadily being offered less and less.<br />
Yossi says that only Israel&#8217;s hawks can fulfill the vision of its doves. The left was right that Israel can&#8217;t continue to occupy. The left was wrong in thinking that Israel could negotiate peace with the Palestinian leadership.
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
		<link>http://www.yourish.com/2005/09/29/139/comment-page-1#comment-370</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;ve got your Yossis confused.  Yossi Beilin was the architect of the Oslo Accords.   Yossi Klein-Halevi&#039;s eyes have been opened, as it were, for quite a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;ve got your Yossis confused.  Yossi Beilin was the architect of the Oslo Accords.   Yossi Klein-Halevi&#8217;s eyes have been opened, as it were, for quite a while.</p>
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