Comments on: More Condi on Israel and Hamas http://www.yourish.com/2005/09/22/100 Cutting straight to the point Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:23:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Kav http://www.yourish.com/2005/09/22/100/comment-page-1#comment-267 Kav Thu, 22 Sep 2005 19:48:20 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/?p=100#comment-267 Sabba, they may be honest and might be trying to support the US. Please don't assume dishonesty and treachery when blind stupidity and ignorance can suit. Sabba, they may be honest and might be trying to support the US. Please don’t assume dishonesty and treachery when blind stupidity and ignorance can suit.

]]> By: Sabba Hillel http://www.yourish.com/2005/09/22/100/comment-page-1#comment-264 Sabba Hillel Thu, 22 Sep 2005 17:00:19 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/?p=100#comment-264 The problem is that she seems to feel that she has to go along with the Arabists in the State Department because she has the illusion that they are honest and are trying to support the United States. The problem is that she seems to feel that she has to go along with the Arabists in the State Department because she has the illusion that they are honest and are trying to support the United States.

]]> By: Joel http://www.yourish.com/2005/09/22/100/comment-page-1#comment-260 Joel Thu, 22 Sep 2005 15:24:21 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/?p=100#comment-260 Rice is a protege of Brent Scowcroft and James Baker. That says it all for me. Rice is a protege of Brent Scowcroft and James Baker. That says it all for me.

]]> By: Cynic http://www.yourish.com/2005/09/22/100/comment-page-1#comment-259 Cynic Thu, 22 Sep 2005 14:51:57 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/?p=100#comment-259 It seems that everybody has forgotten what happened in the past. In the 80s the Reagan's Administration saved Arafat from Israel in Beirut and set him up in Tunis along with his gang of Abbas, Qureia et al. Then During Bush 1's term of office the State Department went along with the Arab League's demands and crowned Arafat king of the Palestinians. Nobody remember when the Madrid talks were thrust on Israel Baker's message to Shamir, who was resisting Baker's pressure to talk to Arafat, to call when he got serious? By setting up where Israel had no alternative we now can look back with 20/20 hindsight and see what it wrought. That Rice has not learned from her mentor, Derijian and his boss' mistakes, must be indicative of a lot of insincere behaviour cause she is not stupid. It seems that everybody has forgotten what happened in the past.
In the 80s the Reagan’s Administration saved Arafat from Israel in Beirut and set him up in Tunis along with his gang of Abbas, Qureia et al.
Then During Bush 1’s term of office the State Department went along with the Arab League’s demands and crowned Arafat king of the Palestinians.
Nobody remember when the Madrid talks were thrust on Israel Baker’s message to Shamir, who was resisting Baker’s pressure to talk to Arafat, to call when he got serious?
By setting up where Israel had no alternative we now can look back with 20/20 hindsight and see what it wrought.
That Rice has not learned from her mentor, Derijian and his boss’ mistakes, must be indicative of a lot of insincere behaviour cause she is not stupid.

]]> By: Paul M http://www.yourish.com/2005/09/22/100/comment-page-1#comment-257 Paul M Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:17:24 +0000 http://www.yourish.com/?p=100#comment-257 So what Rice is saying is, Israel should allow the Palestinians to run their elections any way they want and elect whoever they think fit - but Israel doesn't have to agree to deal with the resulting government if it contains Hamas. Perfectly reasonable, except you and I and everyone else knows that half the world would say "they're democratically elected, you have to recognize them" and accuse Israel of obstructionism and meddling in Palestinian internal affairs; US support of the Israeli position would be half-hearted and no-one else would back Israel at all. So once again, it would be Israel standing in the way of peace and progress. So what Rice is saying is, Israel should allow the Palestinians to run their elections any way they want and elect whoever they think fit – but Israel doesn’t have to agree to deal with the resulting government if it contains Hamas.

Perfectly reasonable, except you and I and everyone else knows that half the world would say “they’re democratically elected, you have to recognize them” and accuse Israel of obstructionism and meddling in Palestinian internal affairs; US support of the Israeli position would be half-hearted and no-one else would back Israel at all. So once again, it would be Israel standing in the way of peace and progress.

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